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English or Literature?
scared_of_hippies:
Haha cheers man, yeah that makes sense, the structure of English can be constricting. Thanks man.
jane1234:
This is similar to what Water said:
I did unit 1 Lit, hated it, and moved to English for unit 2.
Biggest thing that brought me down after the swap was, sadly enough, basic essay structure.
In Lit were were taught the "literature style" of essays... you would know, it is a fair bit more sophisticated and less formally rigid. However, you need to remember to simplify your essay structure down. You NEED an obvious introduction, body paragraphs with clear topic sentences and links, and a clear conclusion WHICH SUMMARISES YOUR ESSAY AND DOES NOT INCLUDE NEW INFORMATION.
You probably already know that, but in Lit you get lazy with structure, as they are generally not as strict.
So I guess take a step back with essays... obviously not year 7-level lame structuring ... but keep it logically ordered and simplified in structure.
That said, use your lit advantage. Coming out of even one semester, I found that I was able to analyse texts, and even persuasive techniques, on a level slightly different to the people in my class (I was the only one who had come out of lit).
So go as deep as you can, like in Lit, but remember to structure your essays differently.
Hope that helped a little bit... do you know what you are struggling with in particular??
Ghost!:
I disliked Literature immensely last year because of the lack of structure, English is better suited for me (and others) because of the ability to stick to a formula when writing essays :3
ShortBlackChick:
--- Quote from: jane1234 on March 31, 2011, 09:01:20 pm ---This is similar to what Water said:
I did unit 1 Lit, hated it, and moved to English for unit 2.
Biggest thing that brought me down after the swap was, sadly enough, basic essay structure.
In Lit were were taught the "literature style" of essays... you would know, it is a fair bit more sophisticated and less formally rigid. However, you need to remember to simplify your essay structure down. You NEED an obvious introduction, body paragraphs with clear topic sentences and links, and a clear conclusion WHICH SUMMARISES YOUR ESSAY AND DOES NOT INCLUDE NEW INFORMATION.
You probably already know that, but in Lit you get lazy with structure, as they are generally not as strict.
So I guess take a step back with essays... obviously not year 7-level lame structuring ... but keep it logically ordered and simplified in structure.
That said, use your lit advantage. Coming out of even one semester, I found that I was able to analyse texts, and even persuasive techniques, on a level slightly different to the people in my class (I was the only one who had come out of lit).
So go as deep as you can, like in Lit, but remember to structure your essays differently.
Hope that helped a little bit... do you know what you are struggling with in particular??
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--- Quote from: Ghost! on April 01, 2011, 06:55:33 pm ---I disliked Literature immensely last year because of the lack of structure, English is better suited for me (and others) because of the ability to stick to a formula when writing essays :3
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Agreed and me too.
The analysing of the authorial intent during lit helped heaps when it was needed for text response. The unstructured essays of lit were confusing. i felt as if there were so many options of how i could do things and what i could say but in the end i would lose some lot essential analysing and i was pulling off B+'s ,but in english with the structure i got A+'s because it was much more straightforward.
Readinya:
I like Lit over English. I did Lit 3/4 last year, and so i don't have to do any form of English at all this year. (Although I feel as if i should, i know immediately that i will not have the motivation to go through Lit again)
Lit, for me, provides an opening that students can actually explore in terms of ideas, and it can get to the level of philosophical detail. It's great! You can write what you want, so long as you can justify it in terms of analysing what the author has composed.
I know this can also be true of English. However, at my school, they place a HEAVY importance of the TEEL and doesn't allow for any flexibility AT ALL. Throughout Yrs 7-10, the English teachers had to have several conferences because they were arguing how to link passages!! I know of a couple of teachers who wants students to write exactly as they write; limiting ideas, heavy focus on structure and quantity over quality.
Did i mention the stupid FLAP+C things?
That's why i dropped normal English in Yr 10 and picked up Lit instead. I would probably have preferred English Language, but it's not offered at my school.
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