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Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« on: September 14, 2014, 11:56:13 pm »
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VCAA 2013 MC Q.20

I worked out the answer using the Ka value of ethanoic acid, but what's the significance of the volumes given? Also, why does concentration matter when the ratio is 1:1?

Acid-base equilibria kills me  :-\
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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 12:07:04 am »
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VCAA 2013 MC Q.20

I worked out the answer using the Ka value of ethanoic acid, but what's the significance of the volumes given? Also, why does concentration matter when the ratio is 1:1?

Acid-base equilibria kills me  :-\

I'd also like to know this! Has it do with water being self-ionising, and so a greater volume of the solution means more self-ionising water molecules, hence higher % ionisation? That's just my jab at it so an explanation/clarification would be great! :-)

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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 12:24:27 am »
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They've given the volumes as a distractor - just ignore it and look at the concentrations :)
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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 09:43:06 am »
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They've given the volumes as a distractor - just ignore it and look at the concentrations :)

I swear I was going to say that! haha yeah hate when they do that! #mindEFF

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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 02:16:14 pm »
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They've given the volumes as a distractor - just ignore it and look at the concentrations :)

This is a silly question, but when will volume affect the Ka...if ever? Thanks :)
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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 02:37:05 pm »
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This is a silly question, but when will volume affect the Ka...if ever? Thanks :)

The value of an equilbrium constant is only affected by changes in temperature. So, volume will not affect the volume of the acidity constant.

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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 05:21:55 pm »
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The value of an equilbrium constant is only affected by changes in temperature. So, volume will not affect the volume of the acidity constant.
Yes true, but when working out pH will volume matter?
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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 05:36:54 pm »
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Yes true, but when working out pH will volume matter?

When working out pH, volume does matter. This is looked at for instance if we diluted a sample of 1M HCl, the pH would increase due to dilution. However, the actual value of the acidity constant itself remains unchanged by anything other than changes in temperature.

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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2014, 07:21:48 pm »
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When working out pH, volume does matter. This is looked at for instance if we diluted a sample of 1M HCl, the pH would increase due to dilution. However, the actual value of the acidity constant itself remains unchanged by anything other than changes in temperature.

Ah yes! Thank you :)  Why exactly does diluting increase pH?
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2014, 07:40:59 pm »
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Ah yes! Thank you :)  Why exactly does diluting increase pH?

When you dilute an acid, the proportion of H+ to OH- in the solution becomes closer to 1:1. Maybe this is a really simplistic answer, but it'll do. :-)

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Re: Acid-base equilibrium VCAA question!
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 10:40:26 pm »
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Ah yes! Thank you :)  Why exactly does diluting increase pH?

Diluting an acidic solution is the same as adding a solution of 10^-7 M H+, which is lower than your current concentration of H+.

And you're right, the volumes mean nothing. Only the concentration matters. As a general rule, weak acids and bases have a higher percentage ionisation when dilute.
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