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Unimelb Science
« on: October 16, 2014, 09:42:57 am »
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I am thinking of transferring to Unimelb Science (currently I first year health science student at Monash) and have a few questions for those of you doing the course:

1. How hard is it to make friends in a course where there are 2000+ enrolments? My current course has 70 people so it's really easy to socialise. From what I've heard about Melbourne, people don't tend to hang around the campus much since they can easily go into the city. As an introvert, would I struggle to make friends going into second year since there is no cohort or regular interaction opportunities?

2. Would it be feasible to get HDs in first year biology subjects and first year chemistry subjects without having done these at VCE level (or ever)?

3. What is the standard of teaching like? I know this is subjective but are you pleased overall with the quality of your education so far?

4. For those of you who have done it, what is neuroscience like? In terms of teaching quality/interest/opportunities etc. I have done a few psychology units and am certainly interested in the brain but I'm not sure how complex neuroscience becomes and whether you need to be strong at chemistry/biology etc.

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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2014, 10:47:44 am »
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1. How hard is it to make friends in a course where there are 2000+ enrolments?

It's not easy, no. Go to your tutes and get involved with the social clubs on campus.  It's gotten easier for me as I've gotten closer to my major and the classes are smaller.  But yeah first year Biology with 1400 students?  It's what you make of it.

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2. Would it be feasible to get HDs in first year biology subjects and first year chemistry subjects without having done these at VCE level (or ever)?

Of course it's possible (I did it) but it's an impossible question to answer quantitatively. Are you willing to put in the work?

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3. What is the standard of teaching like? I know this is subjective but are you pleased overall with the quality of your education so far?

Absolutely, very much so.

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4. For those of you who have done it, what is neuroscience like? In terms of teaching quality/interest/opportunities etc. I have done a few psychology units and am certainly interested in the brain but I'm not sure how complex neuroscience becomes and whether you need to be strong at chemistry/biology etc.

Can't comment but the little of it I have done in Physiology is awesomeeeeee. Talk to Ballerina, I think she's a neuroscience major.
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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2014, 05:45:17 pm »
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Why not just internally transfer to science at Monash? Seems like it would be a lot easier for you. Don't buy the myth that there are huge differences between the various universities etc (even includes say monash vs la trobe etc).

(1.) Speaking from the Monash course, both hard and easy. I've never experienced a small course but id imagine everyone knows everyone and there might only be one or two labs, so, once you make friends, you'll see them all the time. Fundamentally though, you are still having contact with people and you can make these people your friends if you work at it, it's honestly not all that dire. Indeed, having so many people to choose from can be an upside because if you dont like someone, you can just move along. Due to the sheer numbers, there are bound to be people who share your interests, whatever they are. Labs i find are great for making friends as well. If you're sitting on a bench for 3 hours while your experiment boils away, you actually have a fair bit of time just to talk freely.

Clubs are much easier and more direct for meeting people however, thats half of the reason they exist and you all already instantly share some interests due to the nature of the club.

(2.) As hobbitle says, of course it is possible. However, it obviously requires a lot of work. Doing first year bio would be easier having done VCE bio but it won't be hard if you haven't, just do all your work and readings and you should be fine.

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(4.) You need to discern if you actually like neuroscience or the idea of (studying) neuroscience. A lot of people think neuro is cool and interesting but that doesn't necessarily mean they want to (or should) study it. I'll give you an example, i thought i wanted to study history, turns out i just like the idea of studying history. I liked doing casual reading for it but once i had to do a whole series of structured lectures on it (including things i didnt care about) and a whole bunch of assignments on it, i realised it was more the idea of history i liked.

It can become very complex, i assume they just give you a skimmed and abbreviated version for psych. Imagine taking every little thing they taught and exploding each of those things into their own, individual 50 minute lecture on the topic. Chemistry is not really that important at all, especially regular chemistry. Even biochemistry is mostly of dubious help. Biology is absolutely vital with neuro being a branch of biology more or less. If you aren't familiar with biological conceps you will struggle and lack a deeper understanding. So, you will need to be relatively strong at biology to succeed.

I cant comment on UoM quality, its bound to be pretty good anywhere. As for interest, i find it insanely interesting but thats a personal thing. Job opportunities aren't much great or lesser than any other science major, i wouldn't let this hold you back. It will be difficult to get a neuro related job with just a bachelor of science though, maybe some kind of lab technician or medical technician i suppose but those aren't the easiest to get. Ideally, to work in neuro you will get your PhD and become a researcher/lecturer.

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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2014, 06:44:16 pm »
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OK but Melbourne really is good for Neuroscience (eg Brain centre) and you'll be a lot closer to that action if you go to Melbourne. So I'm not saying Monash is bad for Neuro I'm just saying from a research perspective, there's nowhere I would rather be than Parkville precinct. If you want to walk out with a three year rather than a four year Bachelor then sure, go wherever (within reason...)
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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 04:33:30 pm »
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Thanks to everyone who replied! I would have LOVED to do the behavioural neuroscience course at monash if it still existed. This is what the course was: http://med.monash.edu.au/psych/course/ugrad/maps/bns.pdf

What is the most similar course to this that I can do? Either in Victoria or interstate, I don't mind, I just want to study in-depth neuroscience and this combination of subjects! Thank you :-)

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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 05:05:28 pm »
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Do science at Melbourne or Monash (as mentioned above, access to the Parkville research labs is a very significant positive if you're dead set on research in the future).
Major in neuroscience, take a couple of pharmacology subjects, a couple of psychology subjects and the intro anatomy/physiology subjects.

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Re: Unimelb Science
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2014, 10:20:01 pm »
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The Monash behavioural neuroscience degree was a really odd and complex blend, it would be impossible to 100% create it since most of the units were actually custom made and coded for that degree (probably part of the reason they phased it out).

I'd basically follow the advice Russ gave though. Take Neuroscience/Physiology (all the neuro subjects offered in physiology), you probably honestly need just 1 or 2 max pharm units, get the one that captures the fundamental basics and a healthy sprinkling of psychology. Physiology wouldn't be so important unless it relates to neuro but in that case it would fall under the above anyway.

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