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VCE English Question Thread
IndefatigableLover:
--- Quote from: StupidProdigy on January 19, 2015, 05:18:17 pm ---Hey Lauren!
I'm kinda confused with my why I'm meant to read the white tiger at my school this year because I can't find it or a prompt for it on the 2014 exam? Just searching for some clarification. Thankyouuuu! :)
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2015 is the first year that White Tiger is implemented for the English Exam :)
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/documents/vce/english/vce_engeal_text_list.pdf
A small summary within the above document by VCAA:
--- Quote ---Adiga, Aravind, The White Tiger, Atlantic Books, 2008 (1)
Set in modern-day India, The White Tiger follows Balram Halwai from his early life of rural poverty to his eventual
success as an entrepreneur and wealthy urbanite. Narrated as a series of letters to Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, the
novel charts Balram’s journey out of the slums populated by the poor and lower castes, and celebrates his eventual
triumph as he breaks free from a life of servitude and obeisance. The novel explores the divisions between the rich
and the poor, and considers how social structures operate to reinforce class hierarchy. Adiga’s darkly comic novel
also raises questions about the reliability and integrity of the narrator, and asks whether success is ever possible
without moral compromise.
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StupidProdigy:
--- Quote from: IndefatigableLover on January 19, 2015, 05:21:03 pm ---2015 is the first year that White Tiger is implemented for the English Exam :)
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/documents/vce/english/vce_engeal_text_list.pdf
A small summary within the above document by VCAA:
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Ohhh! Thankyou so much! I'm excited for that then, I loved the book 👍
Thanks again
literally lauren:
--- Quote from: cosine on January 18, 2015, 05:08:13 pm ---Okay, so I think i have a good understanding of the text i am reading now, well its a play...
So what now? I have read some online summaries, plots, character profiles and stuff... what do i do now?
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If you feel confident enough in your understanding of the text, you might look into reading some analyses (depending on which play you're studying, there might be proper academic analyses out there, or you may just have to use VCE level essays; both have their advantages.)
More importantly though, ask yourself 'is there anything I find difficult about the text?' Because now is a great time to clear those issues up. Or, more broadly than T.R. ask yourself what you find concerning about English. eg. does the idea of timed responses freak you out/ can you not fathom how to write an oral presentation/ do you not understand what Context even is? and who could blame you
Even the Study Design won't contain a comprehensive list of everything you need to know, so familiarise yourself with the criteria, and then fine-tune any problems or misconceptions afterwards. Ask yourself the question 'where should I go from here?' because that'll be way more beneficial than me simply suggesting a possible direction :)
--- Quote from: cosine on January 18, 2015, 05:08:13 pm ---(ps, i dont know why, but im starting to like english, wtf....?)
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--- Quote from: RazzMeTazz on January 18, 2015, 05:31:50 pm ---I was wondering if anyone could please distinguish between
1.) Campaign meeting
2.) Conference
3.) Convention
4.) Forum
5.) Summit
I am trying to choose the setting for my oral presentation, to see which will be best suited to my persona (Aboriginal welfare expert) but I'm unsure of which one would be most appropriate?
I have googled these, but I was still a little confused, as some seem a bit similar?
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1.) Campaign meeting = ever seen a news interview with a politician who's just won an election and is standing in a room full of screaming groupies who'd applaud anything he/she said? That's the kind of audience that would be at a campaign meeting; you're essentially 'persuading' people who already believe you (or else, why would they be a part of the campaign?) :P
2.) Conference = more of an open, moderate discussion with a balanced audience. This is a pretty broad term though, so it could apply to a variety of different scenarios.
3.) Convention = pretty much interchangeable with a conference; though conventions are more likely to have 'themes' or 'agendas,' perhaps attracting an audience with certain dispositions or proclivities.
4.) Forum = very generic term, could be anything.
5.) Summit = etymologically this is meant to be a meeting between heads of government, or international representatives, though the meaning has widened in modern usage. This is probably too global for your issue though.
Most of the (minor) distinctions are within the kind of audience you're speaking to, so I'd say a Conference or Forum would be the most ideal. Though I highly doubt any assessor would penalise you for saying you're speaking at a conference when it sounded more like something at a convention :P It's good that you're thinking about the context, but I wouldn't get too wrapped up in semantics :)
--- Quote from: knightrider on January 19, 2015, 12:16:43 am ---Thanks Lauren for clarification. :)
i was just wondering what did you mean by this part."because VCE English teachers can't use numbers."
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Just me being petty. Apparently the claim that the study design ends in 2014 actually means the Class of 2017 will be the first ones to go through the new system is something that makes perfect sense to VCAA, since they've offered no clarification as to the constant extensions.
Nvm... if I start ranting I won't stop. Just focus on which ever Study Design will apply to you and don't worry about whatever VCAA logic is :)
--- Quote from: StupidProdigy on January 19, 2015, 05:18:17 pm ---Hey Lauren!
I'm kinda confused with my why I'm meant to read the white tiger at my school this year because I can't find it or a prompt for it on the 2014 exam? Just searching for some clarification. Thankyouuuu! :)
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Yeah, like IL said, it's a totally new text so there are very few resources available at the moment. At some stage throughout the year I'll update this thread once some samples start cropping up. There'll also be some original ones in around about August/September, or possibly over the June break depending on how busy I get :)
g1mp1e:
Hey Lauren,
With regards to your lecture today, particularly with language analysis, I've previously been told to structure my ideas into different effects on stakeholders, and the different tonal shifts/language/etc. used for each stakeholder and how they vary according to whom the writer is "talking to". (e.g. in Martin Luther King's speech, he addresses the American people, the American government, and his fellow black Americans - and so you would structure your paragraphs around these three groups of targeted audiences). However, as you said today, we should perhaps aim to split our paragraphs into ideas and concepts raised. My question is, could you explain your way of splitting it into ideas and concepts a bit further, and would you recommend using one or the other, or can you use a mix of the two? If so, how would you go about doing this?
Awesome lecture today by the way!
Much thanks! :)
M_BONG:
--- Quote from: g1mp1e on January 22, 2015, 08:18:04 pm ---Hey Lauren,
With regards to your lecture today, particularly with language analysis, I've previously been told to structure my ideas into different effects on stakeholders, and the different tonal shifts/language/etc. used for each stakeholder and how they vary according to whom the writer is "talking to". (e.g. in Martin Luther King's speech, he addresses the American people, the American government, and his fellow black Americans - and so you would structure your paragraphs around these three groups of targeted audiences). However, as you said today, we should perhaps aim to split our paragraphs into ideas and concepts raised. My question is, could you explain your way of splitting it into ideas and concepts a bit further, and would you recommend using one or the other, or can you use a mix of the two? If so, how would you go about doing this?
Awesome lecture today by the way!
Much thanks! :)
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Both are commonly used. The stakeholders approach was the one I used because ANY article will have numerous stakeholders. Stakeholders don't have to be a person - it's just something the author has an opinion on. Eg. racism could a stakeholder in Luther King's speech. It's really easy to identify and it's effective because there is clear separation in what you are analysing.
For example, this is how you would use the stakeholder approach would work.
Body paragraph one: American society (analyse everything said about this)
Body paragraph two: Racism; repeat above
Body paragraph three: Racist people; repeat above.
I think Lauren's idea of splitting things into ideas and concepts (the 'argument' approach) is also quite good - although it might be tricky to sort things into arguments if it's not immediately clear what the author is arguing about. Also, it is a bit arbitrary because you run the risk of analysing arguments not techniques, if you don't master it well.
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