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{SAC RANKINGS} -All you need to know about it-
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--- Quote from: Alter on June 17, 2015, 08:57:30 pm ---They are both considered equal rank one when submitted to VCAA. A teacher cannot use a non-SAC test or practice exam to alter results and thus change ranks of students in a given cohort.
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Haha in fact they can, it happens all the time. Technically you're not supposed to, but students aren't allowed to 'really' know their rank so they can't complain.
SwagG:
Hey Hamo,
Brilliant post about SAC rankings. I have a question though.
Lets say at MHS, we have a methods cohort of ~300. If hypothetically I am ranked average or a bit above average (~90-110) in the SACs we have done so far, if i manage to push my SAC ranking upwards, reaching ~60-70 by the end of the year, is it possible to get a 45+, considering I do really well in the exam. Or is the rank to low to achieve such a score?
Thanks :)
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--- Quote from: SwagG on June 20, 2015, 03:45:41 pm ---Hey Hamo,
Brilliant post about SAC rankings. I have a question though.
Lets say at MHS, we have a methods cohort of ~300. If hypothetically I am ranked average or a bit above average (~90-110) in the SACs we have done so far, if i manage to push my SAC ranking upwards, reaching ~60-70 by the end of the year, is it possible to get a 45+, considering I do really well in the exam. Or is the rank to low to achieve such a score?
Thanks :)
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MHS is arguably the 'best' school to do methods in VIC given how well the SACs scale.
From what I know, the top 20-25 get a scaled 100/100, and top 50 get a scaled score of 95+
If you're able to hit 60-70 with an ace exam, then yes you'd be able to get scores in the realms of 48/49, maybe even 50.
All the best!
Glasses:
Hi Hamo,
Does the VCAA use SAC rankings based on each student's performance throughout the whole year, or each unit separately? (Specifically for Psychology)
I.e. - does each student get one ranking for Unit 3 and another for Unit 4, or one based on Unit 3 and 4 combined?
Thanks!
inish:
I remember when I did VCE, some teachers and a few students were looking into how SACs compare with exams in terms of influence on study score.
I don't think that SACs actually matter too much and your exam performance is the by far the biggest influence on your study score. There's a lot of ways to rig numbers to make them say what you want them to say.
For example, say that you have 50% SACs and 50% exam but the SAC mark median was 97/100 and the exam median was 80/100.
Say you have 5 good students, after SACs, the ranking of these is:
Student 1 -Best
Student 2
Student 3
Student 4
Student 5 -Worst
Now exam performance is reversed.
Student 5: 90/100
Student 4: 85/100
..
Student 1: 70/100
Student 1 ends up with 100% for SACS + 70/100
Student 5 ends up with 95% for SACS + 90/100
Thus, student 5 smashes student 1.
From memory, something similar to this was happening, essentially everyone smashed the SACs after they were adjusted, exams then spread everyone out.
Similar to the Tour de France if you're not great at maths, on the flat stages, there's basically no difference between the first and tenth rider, so you could win all the flat stages and not be very much ahead. In the mountains though, the difference between the first and tenth could be 20 minutes, huge.
Moral of the story is, focus on the exams, they are far more important.
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