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{SAC RANKINGS} -All you need to know about it-
Orb:
--- Quote from: inish on June 23, 2015, 03:05:43 pm ---I remember when I did VCE, some teachers and a few students were looking into how SACs compare with exams in terms of influence on study score.
I don't think that SACs actually matter too much and your exam performance is the by far the biggest influence on your study score. There's a lot of ways to rig numbers to make them say what you want them to say.
For example, say that you have 50% SACs and 50% exam but the SAC mark median was 97/100 and the exam median was 80/100.
Say you have 5 good students, after SACs, the ranking of these is:
Student 1 -Best
Student 2
Student 3
Student 4
Student 5 -Worst
Now exam performance is reversed.
Student 5: 90/100
Student 4: 85/100
..
Student 1: 70/100
Student 1 ends up with 100% for SACS + 70/100
Student 5 ends up with 95% for SACS + 90/100
Thus, student 5 smashes student 1.
From memory, something similar to this was happening, essentially everyone smashed the SACs after they were adjusted, exams then spread everyone out.
Similar to the Tour de France if you're not great at maths, on the flat stages, there's basically no difference between the first and tenth rider, so you could win all the flat stages and not be very much ahead. In the mountains though, the difference between the first and tenth could be 20 minutes, huge.
Moral of the story is, focus on the exams, they are far more important.
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I strongly beg to differ.
Exams are important, sure, but so are SACs, especially in languages where they are weighted 50/50.
I've experienced this first hand, where 1 rank (so 1 spot difference in terms of rankings) meant a study score difference of 2-3. I've also experienced a case where 7 ranks meant a study score difference of 8 (the exact same exam score resulted in discrepancy from 47 to 38, a delightful, extraordinary score to a respectable one). It was very feasible for me to get a study score 2-3 higher than what I would've for my language if I was a rank higher. Sure, there were specific circumstances that made it happen, but to think that exams are 'far more important' is significantly misleading. The only scenarios where it's applicable is probably Mathematics oriented subjects where the weighting is 33/67, and even then after a certain ranking you miss out on the chance of receiving a 49/50 even if you full mark the exam.
I believe that you genuinely think you're right and that's fine, we were all naive in this VCE road once, just felt that it's necessary to correct you :)
Tl;dr do not listen to inish above
exams are important but so are SACs
strawberries:
--- Quote from: hamo94 on June 23, 2015, 05:00:39 pm ---I strongly beg to differ.
Exams are important, sure, but so are SACs, especially in languages where they are weighted 50/50.
I've experienced this first hand, where 1 rank (so 1 spot difference in terms of rankings) meant a study score difference of 2-3. I've also experienced a case where 7 ranks meant a study score difference of 8 (the exact same exam score resulted in discrepancy from 47 to 38, a delightful, extraordinary score to a respectable one). It was very feasible for me to get a study score 2-3 higher than what I would've for my language if I was a rank higher. Sure, there were specific circumstances that made it happen, but to think that exams are 'far more important' is significantly misleading. The only scenarios where it's applicable is probably Mathematics oriented subjects where the weighting is 33/67, and even then after a certain ranking you miss out on the chance of receiving a 49/50 even if you full mark the exam.
I believe that you genuinely think you're right and that's fine, we were all naive in this VCE road once, just felt that it's necessary to correct you :)
Tl;dr do not listen to inish above
exams are important but so are SACs
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Omg :o
does this mean if you're not rank 1 in LOTE and your cohort isn't that strong you're screwed? :'(
iNT:
--- Quote from: hamo94 on June 23, 2015, 05:00:39 pm ---I strongly beg to differ.
Exams are important, sure, but so are SACs, especially in languages where they are weighted 50/50.
I've experienced this first hand, where 1 rank (so 1 spot difference in terms of rankings) meant a study score difference of 2-3. I've also experienced a case where 7 ranks meant a study score difference of 8 (the exact same exam score resulted in discrepancy from 47 to 38, a delightful, extraordinary score to a respectable one). It was very feasible for me to get a study score 2-3 higher than what I would've for my language if I was a rank higher. Sure, there were specific circumstances that made it happen, but to think that exams are 'far more important' is significantly misleading. The only scenarios where it's applicable is probably Mathematics oriented subjects where the weighting is 33/67, and even then after a certain ranking you miss out on the chance of receiving a 49/50 even if you full mark the exam.
I believe that you genuinely think you're right and that's fine, we were all naive in this VCE road once, just felt that it's necessary to correct you :)
Tl;dr do not listen to inish above
exams are important but so are SACs
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Noob question...what do u mean by 'weighting of 33/67'?
IndefatigableLover:
--- Quote from: iNT on June 23, 2015, 06:16:27 pm ---Noob question...what do u mean by 'weighting of 33/67'?
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33.3% SACs and 66.7% Exam weighting for Maths (which is split to 22% and 44% essentially for Exam 1&2).
iNT:
--- Quote from: IndefatigableLover on June 23, 2015, 06:29:10 pm ---33.3% SACs and 66.7% Exam weighting for Maths (which is split to 22% and 44% essentially for Exam 1&2).
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thanks man
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