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Dealing with transactions
heids:
Hey all! As a pretty new tutor, some questions about the uncomfortable money side of tutoring. Especially question 1 if you can't be bothered answering the rest, please.
1. Obviously I need to record payments. What methods/system/book/program do you use? Is it easier to go the full hog, like signatures, date etc.? All students in one book, or a separate sheet for each? etc. I simply have no clue, so far I've just taken money and typed a quick note of it. Getting messier as I get more students.
2. I was told I need an ABN and need to organise 9.25% of super. Sounds a bit over the top to me, right?
3. It's all taxable income, yes?
4. Should I refuse to do a lesson if I haven't been paid for the last one? Any tips for getting over the awkwardness when you have someone who doesn't just pay up easy?
5. How much is it reasonable to charge for single or group tutoring?
6. I'm 17, don't need a WWCC yet right? (the students might need one to work with me as a child though :P)
Thanks in advance :)
pi:
How many students do you have and how legal do you want to run your operation? I don't endorse this, but I dont know many tutors who pay tax, its all in cash and all hush-hush. Excel spreadsheets should be a good tool for all of that organisation, columns and rows for dates and students.
You don't need a WWCC for now, worth getting it a month before you turn 18 as they can take that long to process.
As for rates, most people I know start off ~$30/hr (take $10 off for groups), and can move up to $50/hr as they become more senior over the years.
spectroscopy:
--- Quote from: bangali_lok on June 22, 2015, 04:32:10 pm ---1. Obviously I need to record payments. What methods/system/book/program do you use? Is it easier to go the full hog, like signatures, date etc.? All students in one book, or a separate sheet for each? etc. I simply have no clue, so far I've just taken money and typed a quick note of it. Getting messier as I get more students.
2. I was told I need an ABN and need to organise 9.25% of super. Sounds a bit over the top to me, right?
3. It's all taxable income, yes?
4. Should I refuse to do a lesson if I haven't been paid for the last one? Any tips for getting over the awkwardness when you have someone who doesn't just pay up easy?
5. How much is it reasonable to charge for single or group tutoring?
6. I'm 17, don't need a WWCC yet right? (the students might need one to work with me as a child though :P)
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i cant really help with the first few questions but
4) if they arent going to pay then its reasonable to stop tutoring them, and it might be awkward to talk about the money but you just have to suck it up and say "so that will be x" and if they say "ahhh well i cant pay it now *insert excuse*" then you have to use your judgement to decide what to do.
with my methods tutor last year there would be times when i would pay the price of two lessons after one and so i wouldnt have to pay the next time, and sometimes i would have a brainfart in the morning and forget the money and just bring double the amount the next lesson to pay for the previous lesson. but it depends on building a rapport with your students, and becoming mates with them more than just super clinical "ok 1 hour is over bye lol"
5) this is anyones guess really, price usually correlates with credentials, so i see alot of kids who get 48+ in the subject they tutor charge about $30-$40 an hour, low 40s to upper 40s study score students usually around $30 an hour, and if you get less than like 42 then its usually in the vicinity of 20-25 an hour. if you didnt get crazy scores but you are studying the subject at uni/have other academic accolades you could probably charge a bit more.
Russ:
My records consist of the number of hours worked and the total earned. I don't bother with individual student signatures etc. If you do pay tax, then you can claim/partially claim any related expenses, such as petrol or your computer
You can create an ABN for yourself and make super contributions but this is a poor idea unless you're doing it for tax reasons (in which case you should talk to your accountant).
It's taxable but if you make under the threshold you don't have to pay tax.
I take payment at the end of lessons but if I wasn't paid then there would be no circumstance in which I would schedule another lesson until I had been.
I never advertised or correlated based on my grades, but I charged $30 when I first started uni and it gradually ratcheted up as I became busier/more experienced/targeted more advanced markets. I charge $50 currently to undergrads for interview tutoring fwiw.
nino quincampoix:
--- Quote from: Russ on June 22, 2015, 06:16:14 pm ---My records consist of the number of hours worked and the total earned. I don't bother with individual student signatures etc. If you do pay tax, then you can claim/partially claim any related expenses, such as petrol or your computer
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but claiming petrol is not tax deductible. Since it is not an expense incurred while performing the service (i.e., tutoring), it cannot be claimed. You could only claim petrol if the work involved driving (e.g., taxi). This should also mean that driving from one student's house to another's to render tuition does not constitute a work related expense because you would not be driving and tutoring simultaneously. (But...if you were to drive and tutor, then I suppose that you could claim petrol as an expense, but that would be very odd indeed! :P)
Conversely, if you use the computer to teach, then it is a work related expense and as such can be claimed. I believe that you can look at depreciation of the computer as a means of minimising tax obligations?
One last thing, I think a good rule of thumb is that if something is required for you to render your service(s), then that thing is usually tax deductible (exceptions being clothes for the most part, food, etc.).
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