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Carbonic acid
« on: August 19, 2009, 09:18:34 pm »
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Carbonic acid is a diprotic acid. The equations for each of its ionisations are shown below

H2CO3 + H2O <-> H3O+  +   HCO3-    Ka=4.3x10-7

HCO3- + H2O <-> H3O+ + CO3 2-   Ka = 4.8 x 10-11

i worked out its Kb value be 2.3 x 10-8



question: if some sodium hydrogen carbonate is dissolved in pure water, will the solution formed be acidic or basic? please explain.

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Re: Carbonic acid
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 09:21:02 pm »
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"Sodium bicarbonate is an amphoteric compound. Aqueous solutions are mildly alkaline due to the formation of carbonic acid and hydroxide ion:

    HCO−3 + H2O → H2CO3 + OH− "
Therefore, as carbonic acid is very weak, it would be basic
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 09:26:05 pm »
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that's a really good reasoning, thanks lukeperry!

however, the answer states that the Kb value is higher than the Ka value and suggests this being the reason of its basic nature.

i don't see the logic behind this. and could anyone pls give me some hint?

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 09:33:45 pm »
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All that means is that it is more willing to accept a proton than it is to donate one (it is amphoteric), which is basically what I said when I mentioned that carbonic is a weak acid.
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Re: Carbonic acid
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 09:39:48 pm »
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mmmm... i see.. tkx

but excuse my confusion, how do we tell whether the Kb value's bigger or smaller?

which values is the answer referring to? (i know i m referring to BOB too much here, but i am really quite intrigued to find out why)

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Kb just means the degree of the substances willingness to accept a proton, if that's what you're asking? Can you formulate your question for clarity? lol sorry
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Re: Carbonic acid
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 10:59:55 pm »
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Carbonic acid is a diprotic acid. The equations for each of its ionisations are shown below

H2CO3 + H2O <-> H3O+  +   HCO3-    Ka=4.3x10-7

HCO3- + H2O <-> H3O+ + CO3 2-   Ka = 4.8 x 10-11

i worked out its Kb value be 2.3 x 10-8

You can hence set out the question like this:

HCO3- + H2O <-> H3O+ + CO3 2-   Ka = 4.8 x 10-11
HCO3- + H2O <-> OH- + H2CO3   Kb = 2.3 x 10-8

Competing equilibriums, :. the system with higher K will be preferred.
Hence the solution will be basic, since Kb>>Ka (by 500 times)
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Re: Carbonic acid
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 11:04:42 pm »
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ooooooooooooooooooooooh yuan lai ru ci. tkx so much