Level of difficulty/support in engineering

[kiddoes]

Hey all.
So I've heard... things. Just around on social media platforms, but enough to make me worried.
I've heard that the Engineering pathways at Melbourne are extremely hard and that support from the uni itself isn't too hot either.
This is to the point of unfairly hard, impossible to get the WAM/GPA required for the Masters, failing out of subjects unless you're a natural math whiz, et cetera. (Just things I've heard, not reflective of my own opinion.)
Is it all that bad? I'm genuinely scared, as though I'm committed to and really do love physics and math and the prospect of engineering, my skills aren't super high in the former two. I'm capable in them (more so in Physics than in Math, as I went) and personally enjoy them, but I don't know if that's enough.
Thank you. 

[Muchos Help]

Hey all.
So I've heard... things. Just around on social media platforms, but enough to make me worried.
I've heard that the Engineering pathways at Melbourne are extremely hard and that support from the uni itself isn't too hot either.
This is to the point of unfairly hard, impossible to get the WAM/GPA required for the Masters, failing out of subjects unless you're a natural math whiz, et cetera. (Just things I've heard, not reflective of my own opinion.)
Is it all that bad? I'm genuinely scared, as though I'm committed to and really do love physics and math and the prospect of engineering, my skills aren't super high in the former two. I'm capable in them (more so in Physics than in Math, as I went) and personally enjoy them, but I don't know if that's enough.
Thank you. 

Just go to Monash if you're scared of not hitting the requirements for a Masters spot for CSP, lol.

[kiddoes]

Ain't really that, I'm more asking if it's true that the course is run like hell.

[CossieG]

Just go to Monash if you're scared of not hitting the requirements for a Masters spot for CSP, lol.

lol damn. Savage.

[CossieG]

Ain't really that, I'm more asking if it's true that the course is run like hell.

As a software systems major who's done various subjects in my short time: some subject are run well, some subjects are run like absolute shit. But in the end, the course is what you make of it.

[Muchos Help]

lol damn. Savage.

Don't appreciate the downvote but anyway, it was a genuine suggestion. I'm not sure if he'd want to study for 3 years in the hopes of being able to study engineering afterwards to find out that he can't afford it..

[CossieG]

I can see where you're coming from, just came across as a little rude to me. You can have your upvote back though.

[kiddoes]

Don't appreciate the downvote but anyway, it was a genuine suggestion. I'm not sure if he'd want to study for 3 years in the hopes of being able to study engineering afterwards to find out that he can't afford it..

Problem is, Monash doesn't really offer the engineering I'm keen on. Doing the double (Biomed+Eng) is apparently very disconnected and they don't overlap except for in maybe three fourth year elective subjects.
Oh! And , she, not he, also. Don't really care, but y'know.

[slothpomba]

Just go to Monash if you're scared of not hitting the requirements for a Masters spot for CSP, lol.

Honestly, this is legit advice, it's not even a burn.

The best thing to do when choosing uni selections is to aim to get into the thing you want *straight off the bat*.

This applies to law, medicine, engineering, education and so on. It is best to get in for your first degree then you know you'll have an engineering degree.

Waiting for masters is always somewhat of a gamble. Some people totally drop the ball (yes even kids who scored like 95+) come uni, i've seen it happen every year i've been here (and i've been here awhile).

The competition might surge and become very intense in any one particular year. You're also not competing with only VCE kids anymore, you have far more competition from international students, interstate students, adults from the workforce reskilling and so on.

I dont mean to play it down or make it seem glum, plenty of people make it work and get in obviously. However, if you do go through the masters route, there is a gamble involved.

[heart]

Students who complete an undergraduate degree at the University of Melbourne and achieve a weighted average mark of 65% in the final two years (by 2019)- gives you CSP spot into the Master of Engineering at the University of Melbourne. http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/high_achievers_programs/graduate-course-guarantees/other_graduate_course_guarantees_without_ATAR 

65% isn't that crazy high and manageable

[LeviLamp]

Honestly, this is legit advice, it's not even a burn.

The best thing to do when choosing uni selections is to aim to get into the thing you want *straight off the bat*.

This applies to law, medicine, engineering, education and so on. It is best to get in for your first degree then you know you'll have an engineering degree.

Waiting for masters is always somewhat of a gamble. Some people totally drop the ball (yes even kids who scored like 95+) come uni, i've seen it happen every year i've been here (and i've been here awhile).

The competition might surge and become very intense in any one particular year. You're also not competing with only VCE kids anymore, you have far more competition from international students, interstate students, adults from the workforce reskilling and so on.

I dont mean to play it down or make it seem glum, plenty of people make it work and get in obviously. However, if you do go through the masters route, there is a gamble involved.

I would disagree about the absolute necessity to immediately enter a specialised degree - if you aren't absolutely 100% locked in and deadset on a pathway, there is truly nothing wrong with taking a general course first. An average mark of 65% is achievable with some consistent study, absolutely no problemo. Just don't drop the ball - and if you do, with a requirement of 65% you have a chance to pick it back up again.

[hobbitle]

The School of Engineering at UoM is a bit hit and miss.  There are some awesome lecturers and great subjects, but others are absolutely dire with egotistical lecturers and tutors who don't care.  Pretty much all Eng subjects are pretty hard (some are notorious, with a 60% fail rate etc) unless you are a maths genius. 
You either sign up for the 3+2 model or you don't.  It's clear what it's about and how it works - if you don't like the model, don't go to UoM, and especially don't whinge about it if you're there!  Not saying you will.... i just hear it all the time and it's like, why did you even come here then?

[QUADRATUS]

Yeah, engineering at melbourne is pretty hard
especially when we look at mechanical, electrical and chemical

65% WAM sounds easy on paper, but expect yourself to be working your ass off to get that.
Do that and you can get it just fine

i would still recommend melbourne though

even though its 5 years. You are graduating with a bachelors and a masters
plus you can do your masters with business which helps yu understand the fundamentals of business and management in engineering, which makes you much more credible candidate

[Pup]

Doing the bioengineering pathway during my Biomedicine Degree, was the worst decision ever made. It somewhat screwed up a bit of my gpa in my first year. I dropped out and glad I never touched engineering ever again. ESD2 was the worst subject ever and I have nightmares of group projects where I hardly know about anything at all.  MATLAB was the worst!!!!!!!!!!!! I regret so much, that I wished i had an inner voice that could tell me that bioengineering was the worst. For all those, doing Biomedicine, I recommend not doing bioengineering, if you have any intention of getting in medicine.

[hobbitle]

Doing the bioengineering pathway during my Biomedicine Degree, was the worst decision ever made. It somewhat screwed up a bit of my gpa in my first year. I dropped out and glad I never touched engineering ever again. ESD2 was the worst subject ever and I have nightmares of group projects where I hardly know about anything at all.  MATLAB was the worst!!!!!!!!!!!! I regret so much, that I wished i had an inner voice that could tell me that bioengineering was the worst. For all those, doing Biomedicine, I recommend not doing bioengineering, if you have any intention of getting in medicine.

With due respect and as much as I dislike the School of Engineering at UoM, this is just your perspective.

Bioengineering is a great major and you appear to have just looked at it from the point of view that it's hard, and so you have to work really hard, or your GPA suffers. I took a huge mix of bioengineering and biochemistry/biology-based subjects.  My engineering subjects were always my lowest grades because they are f*****g hard.  So no, if you want to do the easiest path possible to get a high GPA and get into medicine, don't go any form of engineering major.  But if you want to explore the wonderful cross-section of medicine, engineering, and biology - then bioengineering is a great major.