VCE to be abolished in favour of NATIONAL curriculum

[xXNovaxX]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,26000159-661,00.html

We all had a feeling it was coming

1= ENTER changing to ATAR (what a crumby name....ENTER is much better, because it is the "ENETR, you need to "enter" Uni etc LOl)
2= National Curriculum to be implemented for years Prep to 10
3=now years 11/12

What do you's think? I think it has its merits, because i don't think many if any places around the world have different education systems in EACH STATE, although thats probably because we are a large continent/country

But what has me go "urgh" even though we would have finished VCE is that as "unfair" as some people claim it is etc....now we have the whole COUNTRY to compete with (i think).

And now subjects are probably going to change...the subjects we have always liked will be changed. For example in NSW they have MORE types of English, i think its called English advance?

And for economics they have to write an ESSAY in the exam, and a lot of their questions are a lot more math's based. And even though i did methods and spesh (for half a year), I wouldn't want economic to become "mathsy"....i like it the way it is.

I bet the whole curriculum will probably be in favour/based on current NSW one since it has the larger population.

I don't know just my thoughts, and my questions which i still need answered. I guess it has its cons and pro's

Thoughts? comments?

[enwiabe]

Interesting, we'll probably get eaten by BoS if this happens

Oh well

In terms of bettering education, I'd say it will likely be a fairer system, but making a system much bigger (I.E. expanding each individual state system into a national one) will probably see a lot more cracks and holes in said system emerge. I wonder just how unfair this will be on the little guy. Still, I await further details before passing any real judgment.

[costargh]

quick. get on www.acenotes.com

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Good news for the Victorians, we're the smartest of the lot after all
(a bit late for us '09-'11ers though. dang.)

Interesting, we'll probably get eaten by BoS if this happens

This doesn't have to be the end for vcenotes. In such a large area as Australia there will inevitably be cultural differences between states, and perhaps vcenotes could cater for the state of Victoria.

[Fyrefly]

quick. get on www.acenotes.com

It's described as "Australian School Certificate"... shouldn't you be after "ascnotes.com"?

[zzdfa]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,26000159-661,00.html
But what has me go "urgh" even though we would have finished VCE is that as "unfair" as some people claim it is etc....now we have the whole COUNTRY to compete with (i think).

how does that make in unfair? I've seen this brought up a few times but I don't see what 'COMPETING WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY' has to do with anything?? would you rather that your enter score was dependent only on your ranking within your class? that way you are 'only' competing with ~20 other people. I know if that were the case I'd have an ENTER of about 50.

The only way that widening the pool would be detrimental to you is if people in other states were significantly smarter than us, which I'm sure they're not.

And now subjects are probably going to change...the subjects we have always liked will be changed. For example in NSW they have MORE types of English, i think its called English advance?

how can having more choices be bad?

[xXNovaxX]

I was saying even though people say the CURRENT system is unfair....i was having an open mind to the NEW system.

I'm not saying having more choice is bad, i'm just saying i hope for example the economics we do NOW, doesn't become the Economics NSW does for example, and then if i was under the new system id be forced to having to rite essays and do maths etc in a subject which currently doesn't require it.

For example the NSW one has:

English standard
English Advanced
English Extension 1
English Extension 2
and ESL

Having a look through them, it seems pretty interesting. Maybe they should have like an English which has got to do more with where u wanna be. For example, if i wanted to be a journalist, we should have a subject branch form English which deals with different types of newspaper articles, more emphasis on spelling and grammar as well as expression, etc. Whereas if i was a more creative person, there should be an English which cotnains Context, story writing, spelling etc. I think that would be a good idea

Having a look at the exam papers from NSW, they have a subject called.....

COSMOLOGY !!! HAHA, they actually learn about stars, and space etc. LOL. never KNEW THAT existed in high school
MODERN HISTORY (we only have like the last few decades/century)
TOURISM- WTH.....hmm....

I guess my point is, some of the subjects are good, some are wacky, LOL, but currently in VCE all the subjects seem useful/good.

[doboman]

but currently in VCE all the subjects seem useful/good.

Hah. Good one.

[ninwa]

OMG I wish Victoria had cosmology

/useless post which contributes nothing to the thread

[xXNovaxX]

hahah, nah it does, lol. You're just saying what you think, lol, free speech , if you wnat to see posts which dont contribue anything to the thread read
"Why do you think so many people are bad at maths"
LMAOOOOOOOO. I shoulda kept my mouth shut, now im gonna be bombarded with complaints, haha

[darkphoenix]

Does this actually have a really significant change?

I thought they just changed the name of it and thats it..

[xXNovaxX]

well as of 2010 i heard, the name ENETR is going to change to ATAR (such a lame name, stands for Australian Tertiary Entrance Rank), but the education department emphasized only the name was changing (except q'land which retianed its own name for some reason), but they said the marking remains the same as it is now.

But yesterday they said on herald sun that now its going to become a new curriculum and stuff.

[appianway]

It'll be interesting to observe the popularity of certain subjects across different states. I presume that the percentages of students undertaking the maths and sciences will be relatively constant, but the prevalence of certain humanities subjects across the states could reflect the culture of the environment.

[xXNovaxX]

yeah, that's a good point! I also wonder whether states like WA and Northern Territory are more into wood, metal etc, instead of the sciences and business degrees which are popular in NSW and Victoria.

[xXNovaxX]

but currently in VCE all the subjects seem useful/good.

Hah. Good one.

LOL, thanks for pointing that out, I just relised the ambiguity of my statement. LOL