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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #315 on: July 20, 2016, 10:24:14 am »
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Does anyone have any related text suggestions for module C preferably to do with Wag the dog, would be much appreciated :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #316 on: July 20, 2016, 10:39:40 am »
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Does anyone have any related text suggestions for module C preferably to do with Wag the dog, would be much appreciated :)

Hey! Wag the Dog is a super popular prescribed text, a lot of people have put essays on it in our Module Marking Forum, have a flick through and see what they've used!! Hopefully something there will be useful  ;D

We seriously need to develop a community based list of ORT's, I'm going to have a think about the best way to do that  ;)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #317 on: July 21, 2016, 12:42:35 pm »
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I was just wondering how important you guys think it is to explain the plot of your set and related text (especially in AoS!) I feel like I often waste time waffling about the context of my quote or point, but I'm not sure how else to cut that down and still make my point clear. Can we assume the markers know our texts inside out?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #318 on: July 21, 2016, 01:24:18 pm »
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I was just wondering how important you guys think it is to explain the plot of your set and related text (especially in AoS!) I feel like I often waste time waffling about the context of my quote or point, but I'm not sure how else to cut that down and still make my point clear. Can we assume the markers know our texts inside out?
Thank you!  :)

Hello! This is a really valuable question - I'm surprised it hasn't been asked before! But, I know it is a really common problem people face, trying to find the balance between providing enough for a marker to understand what's happening in your related text. Essentially, for the prescribed text, don't worry about setting the scene so much. Markers will have a knowledge of the context of each text that's solid enough to make sure what you says, makes sense, without having to go into too much waffle. Depending on the nature of the text, there are a number of ways to do this.

I mean, for Shakespeare's texts, every marker knows Shakespeare. It's more important to provide the context for Shakespeare in Module A than it is for Area of Study. The reason being, Module A is a comparative module, in order to compare two texts you have to compare their contexts. Whereas in Area of Study, you're view point is that you are someone who has formulated a thesis on discovery, and you are using the scenario of the texts to show how that discovery is lived out. I mean, if a particular technique gives itself to providing context, then why not. Hypothetically, if you are discussing the use of a soliloquy, you would point out that the text was intended for an Elizabethan audience, in the Globe threatre, etc, etc. Because that enhances how the audience would perceive the discovery. But, you cannot lose track of that module being about discovery and not about texts.

As for non-Shakespearean, it works a little different. You need to practice being succinct with your words, and give the context no more than a sentence in total. Then, as you go through the essay, you can drop little comma splices in with some contextual detailing.

Here is an example of how I analysed my AOS prescribed text, while also giving some context. I made the context part of the analysis:

The evolution of human perceptivity may begin in an environment that stimulates new experiences with the potential to impel discoveries. O’Mahoney’s documentary opens with archival footage of Australian television reporting on the issue of asylum seekers, involving prejudices and opinion. The purpose of this is twofold. The archival footage gives contextual information to a responder about the circumstance that stimulates the necessity of discovery, but also makes this particular issue appear grounded in reality.  Each participant is introduced through indirect interviews and they each hold some form of political or ideological stance. Jump cutting between participants reveals how each of their opinions conflict. This juxtaposition reflects a cross section of society. This way a responder may be able to identify with a participant and experience the discovery as it occurs.

So you see I talk about the prejudice, and the topic of asylum seekers. Done - that's all the marker needs to know of my plot.

As for my prescribed text...It was set in Australia in an unidentified year, in an unidentified state or town, it was about a girl who was fed up with her life and the banality of it and longed for change. A man enters her regular environment: her parent's newsagency. He is Pakistani, which her dad would hate, but he gives her hope to find a new life and step out.

Racial prejudice is also a platform for discovery in Distant Lands. “The girl they call Fat Maz” is reminded of the regularity of her day as the greyhound bus passes daily “going North to the city.” The bus is a metaphor for the banality of routine in her life, thus describing the situation that has stimulated her consequent discovery. Furthermore, the bus going to the city indicates that she lives in the country, stereotypically sheltered from the modern acceptance stimulated in metropolitan areas. The introduction of a Pakistani character encourages the protagonist to fear that if her racist father knew, “he would have thrown him out.” Both Fat Maz and the participants of Go Back To Where You Came From are sheltered and unchallenged in their Australian environment, thus the foundation of their growth as individuals and the platform for discovery is revealed.

This is an essay that has three paragraphs devoted to each text, detailing the different stages of discovery, so that's why this paragraph is about the place that discovery is fertilised.

So essentially, it is about finding ways to integrate the context or scene into your analysis. Markers are smart people, they will catch on or connect the dots. But remember, your analysis of the texts outweighs your explanation of the context! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #319 on: July 21, 2016, 01:30:52 pm »
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Ok awesome thank you! I think I need to practice integrating my explanation of a text with my exploration of discovery! Would you say it is similar for Module B? I'm studying Cloudstreet!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #320 on: July 21, 2016, 04:11:27 pm »
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Okay my question is- what is the best way to study to memorise three, thats right THREE, essays for an exam... dont know where to start :o

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #321 on: July 21, 2016, 04:26:28 pm »
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Okay my question is- what is the best way to study to memorise three, thats right THREE, essays for an exam... dont know where to start :o

Elyse is the master of memorisation!! She wrote this article, it might be worth a read if you want some advice!

I personally don't recommend memorising essays, and you can read why  ;) it's Elyse and I's great debate  ;)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #322 on: July 21, 2016, 04:30:47 pm »
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Hey guys, wondering if there was a general guideline on how to approach Unseen texts in paper 1 of advanced/standard, e.g what vocab to use, techniques i need to be aware of for visual analysis

Thanks

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #323 on: July 21, 2016, 04:41:48 pm »
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This was expertly done by Elyse in her English Advanced lecture, so I wont pretend to take credit for it.
She said that for visual images
- use of colours
- salient image
- angle
- vector lines (these are lines of significance that can either be reading paths or physical lines)
- positioning (foreground, midground, background)
- contrast
- composition (what is included and excluded and why? Note that this a major theme in Mod C (elective 2 i did, but i think it will apply to elective 1 also)
-body language
- eye gaze

In Advanced English, a broad vocab is great just make sure you arent using a word in its wrong context, or if you dont know what it means.
For example: I like using big words because it makes me feel hippopotamus ;D It makes you look like you dont know what you are talking about. 

For Paper 1, there is a constant thread running through each paper. The composers have put it in that order for a reason. Hence why I am giving the recommendation that this is one of the only papers you do front to back (in its proper form). Get warmed up on the unseen texts, get familiar with them in reading time but read the question before the text! that way you will know what you are looking for without having to read it ten times lol.

Hope all this helps :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #324 on: July 21, 2016, 04:47:58 pm »
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Hey guys, wondering if there was a general guideline on how to approach Unseen texts in paper 1 of advanced/standard, e.g what vocab to use, techniques i need to be aware of for visual analysis

Thanks

Hey Jamie! I suppose that's the tricky bit about that section, because you never know just what you will get!!

Visual ones can be the hardest, look out for things like salient images, offers/demands, vectors, use of colour, size, all the simple stuff. You'll never need to do anything substantial with a visual text, so the simple stuff should get you through, but a much better list was just provided by study buddy  ;D

Besides that, my biggest tip is to respond to the verb. So many students write whole pages for a 2 Mark describe question; this is not efficient! Be sure to only write how much you need to get the marks. A couple of sentences for 1-2 marks, a solid paragraph for 3-4, and a couple of paragraphs for 5+.

Keep linking everything back to Discovery as well, as a given  ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #325 on: July 21, 2016, 05:00:21 pm »
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This was expertly done by Elyse in her English Advanced lecture, so I wont pretend to take credit for it.

Ten brownie points for you for paying attention! :) :)
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« Reply #326 on: July 21, 2016, 05:03:04 pm »
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Hey guys, wondering if there was a general guideline on how to approach Unseen texts in paper 1 of advanced/standard, e.g what vocab to use, techniques i need to be aware of for visual analysis

Thanks

Everything else is said above, but I will suggest trying to read as much of your unseen texts as possible in reading time. I did this and it saved me 10 minutes of reading from my writing time! That means, I scored myself ten minutes extra time to write (that is worth an entire paragraph in an essay - so very valuable!). I practiced reading fast and accurately. In the HSC exam, I crammed all of my unseen text reading into the ten minutes provided at the start (bar about a paragraph left to read in the writing time) so I could jump straight into my writing as soon as the time came to pick up my pen!
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« Reply #327 on: July 21, 2016, 05:07:29 pm »
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Ten brownie points for you for paying attention! :) :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #328 on: July 21, 2016, 08:32:48 pm »
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For anyone here who studied Shakespeare's Macbeth, it would be nice if you could help me with the following questions

1. How does Shakespeare target James's interests in Macbeth?

Well seeing that his main audience was King James didn't it have to do with something about basing it off a true event?

2. What was the purpose of Macbeth?

Like most Shakesperean plays, isn't the purpose to entertain?

I'm kinda stuck on these guys. Please help me out

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #329 on: July 21, 2016, 09:16:57 pm »
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For anyone here who studied Shakespeare's Macbeth, it would be nice if you could help me with the following questions

1. How does Shakespeare target James's interests in Macbeth?

Well seeing that his main audience was King James didn't it have to do with something about basing it off a true event?

2. What was the purpose of Macbeth?

Like most Shakesperean plays, isn't the purpose to entertain?

I'm kinda stuck on these guys. Please help me out

Thanks  ;D

Unfortunately I studied Macbeth way back in Year 10 so I honestly can't remember enough to be able to give specific help, however if you haven't already it would definitely be worth having a good old Google about the context of Macbeth and try to find out some more about the historical and social factors at the time Shakespeare was writing it etc. Sometimes Sparknotes and other websites like that have some good content about the context, but also since Macbeth is a widely studied play there would be a heap of academic articles that you could skim read for more information.
Obviously, as you said, Shakespeare was writing to entertain an Elizabethan audience but even more importantly he was hired (possibly by King James...?) to write, so you can only assume there would be a bit of bias.  :)
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