English Advanced Question Thread

[Spencerr]

Hey i was wondering for Mod A i do Pride and Prejudice and Letters to alice how would i link the two texts together and what is a good method to find the right quotes to back up an argument?

Hey there, i did those two texts. I managed to link them together via the idea of marriage. Like how women in austens time were expected to marry and be obedient but then in modern day life (weldon, they can do whatever they want because of feminism etc)  another link you can do is on literature and the importance of reading. Since this second one is very unique, you'll find your own interpretation of it like I did with mine. Good luck

[marynguyen18]

thank you so much, do you have any tips on finding the right quotes in those texts to help make my argument better. I always struggle with finding the right quotes.

[angiezhang9]

Hey,

For our essays, do we have to define key terms of the question. For example, in the AOS essay, do we have to define discovery?

Thanks heaps

[Lauradf36]

So here's the sitch: We just started our Module C text, the Crucible, last week. Now, in little over a week, I'm going to have to write a 20 mark response to it in my trials! AAAAAHHH

Freak out over. But seriously, how would you suggest studying all the quotes/themes of this text in a (VERY) short amount of time??

And does anyone how studied the Crucible/Mod C in general know what are the key themes/ideas of Mod C essays?

[sudodds]

Hey i was wondering for Mod A i do Pride and Prejudice and Letters to alice how would i link the two texts together and what is a good method to find the right quotes to back up an argument?

They're my texts for Mod A as well The way I linked the two texts together was through the over-arching theme of marriage, and its intertwining relationship with class, opportunities for women and the rebellious character. You can also look at attitudes towards the single women if you have enough time, and the role of fiction/literature.

In regards to quotes, the best way is to read the text with the quesiton in mind and highlight/underline as you go, however in many cases this takes to long, so I would suggest taking a little short cut and just look up on google "Pride and Prejudice role of class" or "Letters to Alice role of fiction" etc. Quotes are bound to crop up, along with other peoples analysis which may help to inform your own.

Good luck!

[victoriad98]

Hey, I really need some help with incorporating my related text into my Module C essay! Ours is based on people and landscapes, and we're doing The Art Of Travel by Alain De Botton (worst text to study EVER). With this, i just don't know how to fluently incorporate it. Do you have any sort of structure to it or any techniques? Please and thank you! 

[jamonwindeyer]

thank you so much, do you have any tips on finding the right quotes in those texts to help make my argument better. I always struggle with finding the right quotes.

This is the tough bit  did you go through the text with your teacher in class? Often you will get some gems from there. Besides that, Sparknotes is your best friend!! That's the link for Pride and Prejudice, hopefully it helps, heaps of good themes, quotes, analysis etc 

[jamonwindeyer]

Hey,

For our essays, do we have to define key terms of the question. For example, in the AOS essay, do we have to define discovery?

Thanks heaps

Hey Angie! Nope, not necessary for English or any HSC essay, straight definitions are something the marker already knows  what you should do is frame the term how you would like it to be perceived for your essay. Discovery is broad, your Thesis should hone in on one specific aspect of that term to set up the conceptual focus of your essay! 

[jamonwindeyer]

So here's the sitch: We just started our Module C text, the Crucible, last week. Now, in little over a week, I'm going to have to write a 20 mark response to it in my trials! AAAAAHHH

Freak out over. But seriously, how would you suggest studying all the quotes/themes of this text in a (VERY) short amount of time??

And does anyone how studied the Crucible/Mod C in general know what are the key themes/ideas of Mod C essays?

Hey hey! Ouch!! That's a nasty situation, can't believe your school would make you do that, absolutely absurd, you should just be doing the two you know well and replacing Module C with some other response. Anyway...

Okay! So, first off, Sparknotes is your best friend. Use it to get your notes on themes/quotes/techniques/analysis all from one spot (I just linked you to the Crucible page) 

Following that, just focus on remembering as much as you can from your notes: Make summaries, etc etc, do what you need to do.

Then, do some practice dot point essays. Write a Thesis and dot point how the rest of it will be structured. This is a great way to practice essays when time is tight 

The idea of Advanced Module C is Representation and Text. You are exploring the connection between technique and meaning. That is, how is technique used to create meaning for the audience, this is a massively audience and composer focused module. What does the composer do, what choices do they make, to communicate meaning to me as a responder    more detail at the syllabus, but this is the main idea!

Just for reference, the Module C Marking Rubric:

- demonstrate understanding of and evaluate the relationship between representation and meaning
- organise, develop and express ideas using language appropriate to audience, purpose and form

Good luck! Work hard and you'll smash it! 

[jamonwindeyer]

Hey, I really need some help with incorporating my related text into my Module C essay! Ours is based on people and landscapes, and we're doing The Art Of Travel by Alain De Botton (worst text to study EVER). With this, i just don't know how to fluently incorporate it. Do you have any sort of structure to it or any techniques? Please and thank you! 

Hey Victoria! I agree, everyone I know who studies that text has lots of trouble with it, it is definitely not a nice one in my opinion 

This goes for all related text scenarios, the best way to do this is to do it conceptually. Pick something that both Art of Travel and your ORT discuss, and talk about how it (the idea) is represented in both texts in the same paragraph. First half of the paragraph on Art of Travel, second half on ORT (known as a softly integrated response). This works well because the integration is automatic, based on a concept, which is great for an essay anyway 

That's what I recommend for any related text scenario, and it works really really well. It might be what you are looking for? 

[Daynnii]

Hi there,
What are some of the most efficient ways of tackling english study (both paper 1&2) with trials coming up in about a week and a bit?   

[victoriad98]

Hey Victoria! I agree, everyone I know who studies that text has lots of trouble with it, it is definitely not a nice one in my opinion 

This goes for all related text scenarios, the best way to do this is to do it conceptually. Pick something that both Art of Travel and your ORT discuss, and talk about how it (the idea) is represented in both texts in the same paragraph. First half of the paragraph on Art of Travel, second half on ORT (known as a softly integrated response). This works well because the integration is automatic, based on a concept, which is great for an essay anyway 

That's what I recommend for any related text scenario, and it works really really well. It might be what you are looking for? 

Yes this is what I needed!! thank you so much 

[jamonwindeyer]

Hi there,
What are some of the most efficient ways of tackling english study (both paper 1&2) with trials coming up in about a week and a bit?   

Hey Daynnii! Welcome to the forums! Let me know if you need help finding anything

With Trials in a week and a bit, you'll be wanting to focus on two things: Memorising your quotes, and practice essays!

Memorising your quotes is probably the tricky bit, and it totally comes down to how you best remember context. Summary posters, palm cards, audio recordings, worksheets, all work really really well. Take a read of this article for a few ways Jake recommends for remembering content.

Once you've memorised your quotes, get practicing!! Obviously writing full practice essays is the best way to go, but there is another method almost as good. Dot point essays! Basically how this works is you get the question, write your introduction in full, but then dot point your body paragraphs! Dot point the quote, the technique, and the effect, something like this:

Paragraph 1: Nature of Ambition
- "Quote" -> Personification, accentuates ambition as real human quality
- "Quote" -> Visual/aural imagery, develops audience sympathy

This allows you to quickly practice your ideas without the time consuming exercise of writing a whole essay in full  I recommend doing at least one Trial under exam conditions, but this is a happy medium if you are short on time 

Mix in with this some practice for the creative and unseen sections of Paper 1, and you'll be all set to go! It's a lot to do, but work hard and you will smash it! Good luck! 

[Spencerr]

Hey Jamon,  for section one of discovery. Do you have any tips for tackling it. E.g. how do you structure a response for a two marker? Three marker? 4 marker? And the last big one. How much are you meant to write, i've heard sources say that two and a half pages for the last 5 or 6 marks are needed :$ and sometimes even a full page is needed for a two marker.

[studybuddy7777]

Hey Jamon,  for section one of discovery. Do you have any tips for tackling it. E.g. how do you structure a response for a two marker? Three marker? 4 marker? And the last big one. How much are you meant to write, i've heard sources say that two and a half pages for the last 5 or 6 marks are needed :$ and sometimes even a full page is needed for a two marker.

Sorry but i saw this and just have to say that is the biggest load of rubbish ever!!
For 2 marks you should be writing no more than 6 lines
For 6 marks, maximum 2 pages.
Rumour says that in addition to having a seperate source booklet, 2017 -> English HSC Students will also be limited in the amount of space they have to write
Eg Answer Q1 (all the unseen texts and the big one) on Pages 4-7.
Answer Q2 (creative) on Pages 8-12
Answer Q3 (essay) on Pages 13-17.

But then again, this was addressed to jamon not to me, so feel completely free to ignore everything (except this para lol :p) that i just said.
Cheers