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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2595 on: July 31, 2017, 06:33:09 pm »
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At this late stage, preparing a 2nd related is probably not the most efficient use of time given how unlikely it is that they would require that of you. Not saying it won't happen of course, but it would be unlikely! You might prefer to just use your text for the AoS instead - Maybe have a think of how you would tie it in if you had to!

I assume the previous post was referring to Mod C as its the only one that you need a ORT for (from my understanding of the texts I do at least haha). I am almost 100% certain if you are doing the CSSA paper that the trial will not specify 2 ORTs as our teacher often likes to "emphasise" certain words before exams to point us in the right direction (haha) and he said nothing about 2 orts, if there was one he definitely would have warned us :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2596 on: July 31, 2017, 06:35:20 pm »
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Hey if Emily or Elyse or anyone could help me out I would really appreciate it!
In reference to Mod B, Emily gave me heaps useful info yesterday R.E discussing the texts enduring value and evaluating how successful the author/director has conveyed ideas. I'm just still a bit confused... does this form the basis of your argument based on what question you get? Eg. From the things my teacher has stressed in class, I have a feeling the CSSA Trial question for Mod B will be something along the lines of: How does Orson Welles represent the impact of loss through the moral decline of Charles Foster Kane... so does the basis of my essay turn to how loss/moral decline and its associated values have enduring values/ how well they are conveyed by welles?
Thank you, will really help because I am 100% fine for Mod a and c but B is a mystery for me! :)

Hey! Doesn't seem like it's a mystery, you are spot on - That's exactly how you would frame it (with particular focus on what the composer does with the character of Kane and his moral decline) :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2597 on: July 31, 2017, 06:37:35 pm »
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Hey! Doesn't seem like it's a mystery, you are spot on - That's exactly how you would frame it (with particular focus on what the composer does with the character of Kane and his moral decline) :)

Cheers Jamon, absolute legend! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2598 on: July 31, 2017, 06:38:44 pm »
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Hi i was wondering what the technique was in the line "O momentary grace of mortal men/ Which we more hunt for than the grace of God" from Richard III? I'm trying to talk about how Hastings is conveying that lusting for power & being too caught up with yourself means you can't contemplate religion/spirituality. I was maybe thinking of the technique where they swap the order of the words around, but i can't remember what it's called. thanks!

Hey! You've got use of iambic pentameter there for emphasis, you've got alliteration in "mortal men" and "grace of God," use of inclusive language "we" to draw the audience into the perspective ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2599 on: July 31, 2017, 06:38:56 pm »
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realistically, how many quotes should we have for mod b!?... close study!? ::)

Hey! Close study questions can get quite specific, so having a few more than you plan to use is always beneficial - If you are using three to four quotes per paragraph in a three paragraph essay, that's 10-12 quotes. To give some legroom, maybe go closer to 20? Quality over quantity though! :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2600 on: July 31, 2017, 06:40:55 pm »
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hey everyone!
Could someone please tell me the technique within this quote from 1984. I'm getting metaphorical or ironic vibes but idk.

"A time where truth exists"

Thank you!

Hey! I think it is definitely a form of metaphorical language, you are right there, there's also a teeny bit of an alliterative feel to it. It could be dramatic irony, if this is the line presented within the text but the audience knows it is actually false? :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2601 on: July 31, 2017, 06:42:33 pm »
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hey everyone!
Could someone please tell me the technique within this quote from 1984. I'm getting metaphorical or ironic vibes but idk.

"A time where truth exists"

Thank you!

Mmm...a truncated sentence? But also, could you somehow contrast this to the famous opening line about the clock striking 13 - the distorted sense of time? Perhaps truth is never delivered?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2602 on: July 31, 2017, 07:00:06 pm »
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You sure can! As long as you can link it to your Prescribed and there are techniques you can analyse, go for it ;D
Thanks Jamon!

I found a really good one that ties in with people and landscapes for mod C
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2603 on: July 31, 2017, 07:14:35 pm »
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Hey f_tan! I think it would depend a bit on how they worded the question, but a screenshot seems unlikely to me - A quote would make more sense in my opinion!! In your scenario though, if they say "with reference to scene XXX," you'd need to use both quotes and film techniques :)
Thanks for your reply! It's just that in the 2016 hsc paper that's what they did, and all the question said to do was "discuss...with detailed reference to the extracts below" and all it had was an extract from the novel and a screenshot from the movie. So in that case, should I incorporate quotes from the scene as well?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2604 on: July 31, 2017, 07:16:35 pm »
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I assume the previous post was referring to Mod C as its the only one that you need a ORT for (from my understanding of the texts I do at least haha). I am almost 100% certain if you are doing the CSSA paper that the trial will not specify 2 ORTs as our teacher often likes to "emphasise" certain words before exams to point us in the right direction (haha) and he said nothing about 2 orts, if there was one he definitely would have warned us :)
Yes it is for the CSSA. Okay let's hope so! Thank you!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2605 on: July 31, 2017, 08:03:40 pm »
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Hey! I think it is definitely a form of metaphorical language, you are right there, there's also a teeny bit of an alliterative feel to it. It could be dramatic irony, if this is the line presented within the text but the audience knows it is actually false? :)
Yes, I definetly see where your coming from with the dramtic irony. I might just play it safe with allteration now that you mention it. Thanks Jamon!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2606 on: July 31, 2017, 08:04:39 pm »
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Mmm...a truncated sentence? But also, could you somehow contrast this to the famous opening line about the clock striking 13 - the distorted sense of time? Perhaps truth is never delivered?
I never though about it like that! Yes that's definetly something I could integrate into the analysis, thanks so much Elyse!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2607 on: July 31, 2017, 08:16:44 pm »
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Thanks for your reply! It's just that in the 2016 hsc paper that's what they did, and all the question said to do was "discuss...with detailed reference to the extracts below" and all it had was an extract from the novel and a screenshot from the movie. So in that case, should I incorporate quotes from the scene as well?
Thanks for your reply! It's just that in the 2016 hsc paper that's what they did, and all the question said to do was "discuss...with detailed reference to the extracts below" and all it had was an extract from the novel and a screenshot from the movie. So in that case, should I incorporate quotes from the scene as well?

Ahaha sorry yeah I should clarify, that is why I think it is unlikely, don't think you'd get it twice in a row! In any event though, just took a peek at the Module A question you are referring to, I think you'd be doing both filmic techniques and quotes - I personally feel the screenshot is just meant to represent, "Hey, use this scene." ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2608 on: July 31, 2017, 09:21:11 pm »
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hey guys, probably a silly question but i'm having a complete mental blank and I actually haven't written this down anywhere, but what technique would you say is used in "he who controls the past controls the future, he who controls the present controls the past"? Other than repetition/anaphora, I know it's representing the cyclic nature of Orwell's dystopia but I've just completely blanked on the technique!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2609 on: July 31, 2017, 09:54:32 pm »
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hey guys, probably a silly question but i'm having a complete mental blank and I actually haven't written this down anywhere, but what technique would you say is used in "he who controls the past controls the future, he who controls the present controls the past"? Other than repetition/anaphora, I know it's representing the cyclic nature of Orwell's dystopia but I've just completely blanked on the technique!

Hey Steph,
Im feeling like it could be 'Chiasmus'.
When a dual phrase is repeated, rearranged and rephrased to give meaning.
Hope thats what you're looking for :))