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Med school life discussion thread
pi:
--- Quote from: Orson on February 28, 2016, 12:49:39 pm ---Wait...so employers don't like students who had rural placements? So even if someone gets into Deakin BMBS, they aren't guaranteed an internship like FFP kids? I thought all CSP students were pretty much guaranteed an internship. I'm prepared to move to Geelong if its necessary.
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That's not what Russ said at all lol? He just said it may be harder to get references as hospitals apparently prefer consultant doctors (physicians or surgeons) over GP references, as these consultants are harder to come by in rural and regional areas and everyone will be trying to impress them as a result.
Your internship as a CSP student, for the moment, is still guaranteed. Although what will be the case when you plan to graduate medicine in the mid 2020s, who can say.
If I were you I'd be paying more attention to the first part of his post ;)
Orson:
--- Quote from: pi on February 28, 2016, 12:55:30 pm ---That's not what Russ said at all lol? He just said it may be harder to get references as hospitals apparently prefer consultant doctors (physicians or surgeons) over GP references, as these consultants are harder to come by in rural and regional areas and everyone will be trying to impress them as a result.
Your internship as a CSP student, for the moment, is still guaranteed. Although what will be the case when you plan to graduate medicine in the mid 2020s, who can say.
If I were you I'd be paying more attention to the first part of his post ;)
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AHK! I know. It's a long way away. I just realised my wording was extremely bad here:
--- Quote from: Orson on February 28, 2016, 12:49:39 pm ---So even if someone gets into Deakin BMBS, they aren't guaranteed an internship like FFP kids?
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I meant this, as FFP students are NOT guaranteed an internship. Anyway, that makes heaps of sense, unlike what my conclusion was.
Okay then. Cheers pi and Russ! Helpful as always!
vox nihili:
--- Quote from: Russ on February 28, 2016, 12:27:35 pm ---Aggressively try to reign this in, it's not a sustainable approach to life and medicine is hardly worth being that involved in. Being rosy about this sort of commitment isn't healthy :(
Doing a rural placement can make it a bit harder to get references and things for your intern application, depending on the staff and location and so forth but there's no reason to avoid it (assuming, of course that you're happy to relocate for a year).
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So so much respect for that statement.
--- Quote from: MelonBar on February 28, 2016, 11:53:35 am ---Yewww guise. thoughts on eastern health/bokky hospital for placement? Really tempting to return to melbs but apparently the more rural/regional placements (geelong, warnambool, etc.) are pretty solid too. What are the pros & cons of metro vs rural for year 3 and 4 clinical years ?
Thanks!
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It's worth mentioning that Geelong hospital actually isn't a rural hospital. It's RA1 just like Melbourne.
Obviously that's nitpicking, but I don't think you should expect the same experience in Geelong as you'd expect in other regional cities. I mean, Geelong has three hospitals, with a fourth opening next door to Deakin this year, so obviously its health infrastructure is far beyond most regional cities. Add to that the fact that you've got CSIRO down in Geelong and Barwon health and Deakin doing their own research, it's more city-ish than rural in many ways.
All that said, I've only ever been a patient at Geelong hospital so have a reasonably limited idea of what it's like to work or study there :)
MelonBar:
@pi Thanks so much for your write up man. Eastern health sounds really appealing. Someone in my year said metro places like eastern health have too many students (also from monash) so you get less attention from supervisors/opportunity to practice things. That was my main concern but your post suggests otherwise, I get a different vibe altogether.
--- Quote from: Orson on February 28, 2016, 12:49:39 pm ---Wait...so employers don't like students who had rural placements? So even if someone gets into Deakin BMBS, they aren't guaranteed an internship like FFP kids? I thought all CSP students were pretty much guaranteed an internship. I'm prepared to move to Geelong if its necessary.
:o :'(
Can you choose your placement? Is it based on academic merit, or completely random? What would have a better chance of getting you an internship?
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I think deakin have a preference system in place, but beyond that it is random and not dependent on marks. Someone posted some stats on PD. Most people seem to get their first preference. Surprisingly, not many people from the deakin cohort 1st preferenced box hill. Geelong hospital on other hand seems really competitive. May reflect the number of locals in the cohort, and you'd be surprised how few melb kids are here.
--- Quote from: Splash-Tackle-Flail on February 28, 2016, 12:01:29 pm ---Pros of clinical in Warrnambool:
-my mum is a GP there, and does tutes for Deakin medical students :D
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Haha neat, I'm sure your mum's a great tutor. My clinical tutor at the moment is a GP from the geelong area, she's actually the best. In fact most of the deakin med staff have been amazing :)
--- Quote from: Mr. T-Rav on February 28, 2016, 01:37:13 pm ---So so much respect for that statement.
It's worth mentioning that Geelong hospital actually isn't a rural hospital. It's RA1 just like Melbourne.
Obviously that's nitpicking, but I don't think you should expect the same experience in Geelong as you'd expect in other regional cities. I mean, Geelong has three hospitals, with a fourth opening next door to Deakin this year, so obviously its health infrastructure is far beyond most regional cities. Add to that the fact that you've got CSIRO down in Geelong and Barwon health and Deakin doing their own research, it's more city-ish than rural in many ways.
All that said, I've only ever been a patient at Geelong hospital so have a reasonably limited idea of what it's like to work or study there :)
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You're right, I was surprised how developed Geelong is when I visited for the 1st time. In my mind it's a huge town, no doubt it's RA1. There's also quite a number of private specialists working in the CBD.
vox nihili:
--- Quote from: MelonBar on February 28, 2016, 02:16:39 pm ---You're right, I was surprised how developed Geelong is when I visited for the 1st time. In my mind it's a huge town, no doubt it's RA1. There's also quite a number of private specialists working in the CBD.
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Hahah the number of times people at uni will say to me "oh you're from Geelong, so you're a country boy!". Well sure, yes I am, but because I'm from a country town outside of Geelong...Geelong's the city to me hahah.
Definitely some decent stuff down their hospital wise, though it's close enough to Melbourne to not really justify having some of the more highly technical stuff in spite of the population size.
I'm curious to know though, have you heard anything about the Epworth? I asked at the Richmond one yesterday which Unis were getting it, and they seemed to have no idea about it.
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