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RuiAce:

--- Quote from: conic curve on September 15, 2016, 10:06:23 pm ---Isn't there a specific way HSC marks are calculated for courses sat outside of school? Pretend you sat a course with an outside tutor (e.g. 3U maths) and the exams he made you sit were really hard and you ended up getting 60s for those exams and in the external HSC exam everyone does, you get 100 for the exam. How is your raw HSC mark calculated by then? I know that BOSTES takes into account school marks and ranks (mainly ranks) to scale everyone equally because every school's exam differs in difficulty but how does this happen for courses with an outside tutor, especially when you're doing it one to one and how your external tutor's exam is much harder than actual school's? I'd be unfair if they took it for your actual mark you got in the exam, they should only be doing that if the internal exams are either easier or on par with difficulty with the actual HSC paper

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If you do a course by private tutoring and you're the only student, then effectively because of how moderation works your final exam mark is basically what mark you get reported. (The idea is: A candidature of 1 is completely FREE from moderation.)

That being said, private tutoring does benefit people who are actually THAT good.

jakesilove:

--- Quote from: conic curve on September 15, 2016, 10:06:23 pm ---Isn't there a specific way HSC marks are calculated for courses sat outside of school? Pretend you sat a course with an outside tutor (e.g. 3U maths) and the exams he made you sit were really hard and you ended up getting 60s for those exams and in the external HSC exam everyone does, you get 100 for the exam. How is your raw HSC mark calculated by then? I know that BOSTES takes into account school marks and ranks (mainly ranks) to scale everyone equally because every school's exam differs in difficulty but how does this happen for courses with an outside tutor, especially when you're doing it one to one and how your external tutor's exam is much harder than actual school's? I'd be unfair if they took it for your actual mark you got in the exam, they should only be doing that if the internal exams are either easier or on par with difficulty with the actual HSC paper

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I think Jamon's original article answers your question. Your raw mark for internal assessments contributes nothing to your final marks; it's your rank, and your HSC results, that matter. If you were the only person in your class, and get 40% the whole way through, but get a 80 in the HSC exam, you will get 80 for your assessment mark as well.

conic curve:

--- Quote from: jakesilove on September 15, 2016, 10:26:46 pm ---I think Jamon's original article answers your question. Your raw mark for internal assessments contributes nothing to your final marks; it's your rank, and your HSC results, that matter. If you were the only person in your class, and get 40% the whole way through, but get a 80 in the HSC exam, you will get 80 for your assessment mark as well.

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I still don't really get it, because shouldn't it be 60% (as in assessment marks)

Also for people who do courses with outside tutors, where do they sit their external exam (i.e. the HSC exam everyone else sits)?

RuiAce:

--- Quote from: conic curve on September 16, 2016, 11:35:05 am ---I still don't really get it, because shouldn't it be 60% (as in assessment marks)

Also for people who do courses with outside tutors, where do they sit their external exam (i.e. the HSC exam everyone else sits)?

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No. 60% is a raw assessment mark. If you read Jamon's article what you get reported is a moderated and then aligned assessment mark.

Your raw assessment mark in itself is ultimately useless.
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Where they sit it will be at the tutor's discretion.

conic curve:

--- Quote from: RuiAce on September 16, 2016, 11:46:48 am ---No. 60% is a raw assessment mark. If you read Jamon's article what you get reported is a moderated and then aligned assessment mark.

Your raw assessment mark in itself is ultimately useless.
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Where they sit it will be at the tutor's discretion.

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What? So basically all that matters is the HSC external exam? What's the point of the school assessment and external assessment then if there is an equal weighting of 50% for each? I heard this one girl at ruse came third internally but smashed externals and came first in the state for bio. Was this because her internals were completely redundant or what?

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