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exhausted:
This may be the dumbest thing to do for the HSC but I'm just curious because no one I've asked seems to know the answer.
Basically, at my school Studies of Religion is compulsory but I don't want to do it and it's a bit late to move schools. If it's true that they only include your 10 best units for your ATAR, my theory is that if I just do real bad in SOR and worry about my other subjects then I could still get a good ATAR since they only count your best 10? I'm an A grade student so I do get top marks for the other 5 subjects. Again, it's a theory hence why I'm asking about it.
So my question is, if I were to fail everything in SOR, given I complete my other 5 subjects with good marks, what will happen regarding my ATAR? Also, what would be the difference regarding my ATAR if I completed the work for SOR but failed, or if I just didn't complete my work at all? And am i still eligible for a HSC and an ATAR?
Also another question, what would happen if someone didn't turn up for a HSC exam if they already failed the subject anyway or just got an N-award?

Chemystery:
 I know someone in my music 1 class who failed music (didn't give doctors certificate for trials and didn't show up to Aural written exam) and still got a mark so I'm wary about this too!

How many units does SOR count for? I don't have it at my school, and I understand what you're thinking though! My entire speculation really revolves around SOR being compulsory as if it is compulsory in the English sense, failing it would probably determine you not receiving an ATAR, but then again it isn't compulsory at all schools so it shouldn't be so crucial for your ATAR, very confusing!

Is there any chance you can put in minimal effort for SOR and still relatively pass? Have you spoken to your teachers about this?

RuiAce:

--- Quote from: Chemystery on January 29, 2017, 01:12:48 pm ---How many units does SOR count for?

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1 or 2, depending on which version you take.


--- Quote from: exhausted on January 29, 2017, 12:32:02 pm ---This may be the dumbest thing to do for the HSC but I'm just curious because no one I've asked seems to know the answer.
Basically, at my school Studies of Religion is compulsory but I don't want to do it and it's a bit late to move schools. If it's true that they only include your 10 best units for your ATAR, my theory is that if I just do real bad in SOR and worry about my other subjects then I could still get a good ATAR since they only count your best 10? I'm an A grade student so I do get top marks for the other 5 subjects. Again, it's a theory hence why I'm asking about it.
So my question is, if I were to fail everything in SOR, given I complete my other 5 subjects with good marks, what will happen regarding my ATAR? Also, what would be the difference regarding my ATAR if I completed the work for SOR but failed, or if I just didn't complete my work at all? And am i still eligible for a HSC and an ATAR?
Also another question, what would happen if someone didn't turn up for a HSC exam if they already failed the subject anyway or just got an N-award?

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Just put in minimal effort so that you don't have to suffer the N-award.

But yes, SOR does not have to count if you perform better in 10 other units (including at least 2 units of English). Your ATAR will be calculated off those 10 units only.

jamonwindeyer:

--- Quote from: exhausted on January 29, 2017, 12:32:02 pm ---This may be the dumbest thing to do for the HSC but I'm just curious because no one I've asked seems to know the answer.
Basically, at my school Studies of Religion is compulsory but I don't want to do it and it's a bit late to move schools. If it's true that they only include your 10 best units for your ATAR, my theory is that if I just do real bad in SOR and worry about my other subjects then I could still get a good ATAR since they only count your best 10? I'm an A grade student so I do get top marks for the other 5 subjects. Again, it's a theory hence why I'm asking about it.
So my question is, if I were to fail everything in SOR, given I complete my other 5 subjects with good marks, what will happen regarding my ATAR? Also, what would be the difference regarding my ATAR if I completed the work for SOR but failed, or if I just didn't complete my work at all? And am i still eligible for a HSC and an ATAR?
Also another question, what would happen if someone didn't turn up for a HSC exam if they already failed the subject anyway or just got an N-award?

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Beyond your schools consequences (which COULD be refusal to let you graduate or something, I'm not sure), BOSTES will only count your best 10 units. So you'd be fine. Buuuut you shouldn't do that, you should do the work (N-Awards and stuff just aren't nice, they don't look good for a graduating student), and if you do, SOR has a pretty high chance of counting towards your ATAR! It scales fairly nicely, and it's not too hard either! If you work hard you could get a nice mark and improve your ATAR - If you have to do it, might as well do it right ;)

If someone didn't show up to a HSC Exam and didn't have a good reason, they'd fail the unit(s). If they did have a good reason and could prove it, they'd get an estimate from their school :)

sudodds:
hey! I was in the same predicament as you. Studies of Religion was compulsory, and I thought about doing the same thing that you did - focus on smashing my other subjects and neglect SOR. However the thing is..... SOR is actually pretty easy to do well with minimal effort (at least for myself and a heap load of other people that I have spoken to). I did the bare minimum for SOR, studying only the night before for both HSC and trials, and I came away with a 47/50. And I was definitely not the only person that managed to obtain this mark while doing next to nothing so its not like I was just some SOR genius (unlike elyse who's lectures you should defs check out in July if you do decide to try in SOR ;)) Now I'm not recommending only studying the night before cos that probs wasn't my finest moment last year (I blame the fact it was on the same day as history extension), but just trying to demonstrate how relatively easy this subject is in comparison to others + it actually scales pretty well!

If you fail SOR it doesn't have to count towards your ATAR, but I know that a lot of people (including myself) thought it wouldn't count, and then another subject didn't go as planned and it did. Don't go crazy and spend hours upon hours studying for SOR if it's not something that you're interested in, but you might as well give it a go. Alternatively, does your school let you drop SOR after trials? My school did so you can maybe discuss that with your teacher as an option if you really don't want to sit through the classes. As long as you have 10 units of atar-applicable subjects (some tafe/VET courses don't go towards an atar so be wary of that if you study any of those), then you will still be eligable for an atar, and say you study 12 units but fail two, you can still get a really good one granted the other subject marks are high.

I'm not 100% sure about this, but you shouldn't skip an exam even if you don't think it should count towards you atar unless you formally unenroll. I'm pretty sure this can cause issues in regards to your other subjects/HSC.

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