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What happens to your ATAR if you fail a subject or get an N-award?

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exhausted:
Right, forgot to add it's a 2-unit course so I'm currently doing 12 (bio, chem, eng adv, ipt, math, sor II) However they spoke of bringing in the 1 unit for the people like me who just don't care. They've never done it before but this year probably half the grade if not more really don't care about SOR.
I know it's easy marks the teachers keep telling me but I genuinely hate it so much that I can't put effort into something I just don't care for.
The thing is if I just do minimal effort and aim to just pass, if I put in a little too much effort, it could accidentally count towards my ATAR hence why I thought to just fail everything instead because in the end, in theory, it wouldn't count towards my ATAR anyway. If they drop me down to 1 unit which is looking likely, it's going to be a bit harder to do minimal effort without accidentally getting a good mark and contributing to my ATAR if that makes sense.
I know it would come in handy if I bombed out another subject but I'm feeling fairly confident in everything else.
So it seems the way to go is just do minimal work and avoid an N-award?

jamonwindeyer:

--- Quote from: exhausted on January 29, 2017, 07:25:47 pm ---it's going to be a bit harder to do minimal effort without accidentally getting a good mark and contributing to my ATAR if that makes sense

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Is there a scenario where getting a good mark is a bad thing? Like, that's win win! ;D

sudodds:

--- Quote from: exhausted on January 29, 2017, 07:25:47 pm ---Right, forgot to add it's a 2-unit course. So I'm currently doing 12. However they spoke of bringing in the 1 unit for the people like me who just don't care. They've never done it before but this year probably half the grade if not more really don't care about SOR.
I know it's easy marks the teachers keep telling me but I genuinely hate it so much that I can't put effort into something I just don't care for.
The thing is, if I just do minimal effort and if I put in a little too much effort it could accidentally count towards my ATAR, hence why I thought to just fail everything instead. If they drop me down to 1 unit which is looking likely, it's going to be a bit harder to do minimal effort without accidentally getting a good mark and contributing to my ATAR if that makes sense.
I know it would come in handy if I bombed out another subject but I'm feeling fairly confident in everything else.
So it seems the way to go is just do minimal work and avoid an N-award?

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Why is it such a bad thing that it counts towards your ATAR? UAC only takes into account your 10 best units, so you get the highest ATAR possible from your combination of marks and subjects, so if SOR counts then thats not going to negatively impact you :) Its up to you in the end, but I still think you should give it a go even if you dislike the subject. If you get the option to do one unit I'd take it, its way less work than two unit - I did SOR1 and I felt like I hardly ever had religion haha! We only had 3 assessments (including trials!) :)

exhausted:

--- Quote from: jamonwindeyer on January 29, 2017, 07:32:49 pm ---Is there a scenario where getting a good mark is a bad thing? Like, that's win win! ;D

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Yes because if I do really bad in SOR but then one or 2 assessments I do well, it's going to bring my mark up and I don't want to risk it going towards my ATAR if I'm not putting in the effort. If it's going towards my ATAR I'm going to put every effort in to aim as high as possible because if I don't do that and it counts towards my ATAR, I'm going to get a lower ATAR than I would have without it

jamonwindeyer:

--- Quote from: exhausted on January 29, 2017, 07:38:24 pm ---Yes because if I do really bad in SOR but then one or 2 assessments I do well, it's going to bring my mark up and I don't want to risk it going towards my ATAR if I'm not putting in the effort. If it's going towards my ATAR I'm going to put every effort in to aim as high as possible because if I don't do that and it counts towards my ATAR, I'm going to get a lower ATAR than I would have without it

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SOR will only count if it will give you a better ATAR than your other units; they take the best units. So if SOR counts, that means you've performed better in SOR than in another subject - Which it sounds like you are pretty confident that won't happen!

In complete honesty, the energy it will take to try and play the system will definitely just be better spent doing your SOR assignments, doing really well, then studying a night or two before your Trial and HSC. It's not a super hard subject and the Band 6 mark range is quite easy to access if you are in that high mark range for other subjects (aka, SOR won't pose issues if other subjects aren't posing issues).

There is no possible way that SOR counting is a bad thing unless you get a very underwhelming result in another subject, in which case, it would have been better to work hard on SOR just as much as others. The extra unit(s) are/is a fantastic backup ;D

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