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Tino_BCP

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Failing english advanced-RIP ATAR??
« on: August 09, 2017, 08:25:25 pm »
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Well was always shit at english and did try to put in alot of work in until i was on the ground crying, but for some reason would always do awful. I did try getting feedback from teachers and trying to improve but didn't help. Anyway we just had our trials for english and well after my last assessment for english i lost the plot and all my motivation. So for my exams i would be shocked if got at least 35-40% for english. For my other subjects(maths-2u,physics,chemistry,bio) i've been predicted by my teachers a relatively good mark high 80's low 90's. So could english really stuff up my atar that bad. I understand that rank only matters for internals but being honest, my school isnt really that great at all not in top 100. Any advice etc will b appreciated.

Cheers hope everyones trials are going much better than mine :)

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Re: Failing english advanced-RIP ATAR??
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 08:55:32 pm »
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Well was always shit at english and did try to put in alot of work in until i was on the ground crying, but for some reason would always do awful. I did try getting feedback from teachers and trying to improve but didn't help. Anyway we just had our trials for english and well after my last assessment for english i lost the plot and all my motivation. So for my exams i would be shocked if got at least 35-40% for english. For my other subjects(maths-2u,physics,chemistry,bio) i've been predicted by my teachers a relatively good mark high 80's low 90's. So could english really stuff up my atar that bad. I understand that rank only matters for internals but being honest, my school isnt really that great at all not in top 100. Any advice etc will b appreciated.

Cheers hope everyones trials are going much better than mine :)
I feel your pain so much. English is definitely my worst subject which makes it so much harder to be motivated. I would try to set yourself some little goals to achieve for English and reward yourself afterwards. Even something as small as to write one paragraph for discovery or to aim for a certain mark. I think that you should try to find some motivation for English because if you don't it will be really difficult to want to study and then to improve your marks.
What texts are you doing for English? If it's because you don't really understand the texts there are quite a few notes here and you can always ask questions on the English threads. I'm doing Frost's poetry for discovery, Metropolis/1984 for mod A, Hamlet for mod B and The Art of Travel for mod C.

Otherwise, I would really recommend trying to get your post count up and posting some essays around the forum. The feedback is really detailed and helps you know where you need to improve and how to do so. You could even just have a look at the essay marking threads at other peoples essays and see some of their points and where you could improve on yours.
I think that once you get your trial feedback, even if the marks are terrible, read over all the comments and use them to improve for the HSC.
Also, I wouldn't worry about your school rankings too much-just looked up mine, definitely not in the top 100. I would expect that if you studied your hardest and got a good mark your school ranking wouldn't matter too much (actually have no idea about that though).
Tbh, i'm not too sure how much English does affect your atar but it needs to count for 2 units of your mark-this is only trials though so I think that you can definitely improve for HSC.
Have you finished your trials? Still less then halfway through mine (6 exams left). Hope all your other subjects went well.
Hope this helps :)
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Re: Failing english advanced-RIP ATAR??
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 09:22:24 pm »
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Well was always shit at english and did try to put in alot of work in until i was on the ground crying, but for some reason would always do awful. I did try getting feedback from teachers and trying to improve but didn't help. Anyway we just had our trials for english and well after my last assessment for english i lost the plot and all my motivation. So for my exams i would be shocked if got at least 35-40% for english. For my other subjects(maths-2u,physics,chemistry,bio) i've been predicted by my teachers a relatively good mark high 80's low 90's. So could english really stuff up my atar that bad. I understand that rank only matters for internals but being honest, my school isnt really that great at all not in top 100. Any advice etc will b appreciated.

Cheers hope everyones trials are going much better than mine :)
Don't forget HSC is worth half of your mark. As-long as your entire cohort doesn't fail (which it most likely won't) and as long as you are in a decent position (don't have to be in the top end) you can still get a pretty decent mark.

For your HSC you will get two marks, your HSC (raw) mark (this is your mark, what you got in the exam) and your assessment mark (this is the ranked marked, so if you are ranked 20th in your year you will get the 20th highest mark in your cohort).
These two marks are added together and divided by 2, then the magicians at NESA do some more magic (Scaling, aligning etc.) to work out your mark.

Your HSC mark is under YOUR control. Don't worry about what has happened now, yeah it sucks that you lost your motivation but hey sometimes things don't always work out. BUT, this doesn't mean you can't improve your mark immensely. If you smash your HSC English you can definitely get a decent mark. Right now  I wouldn't be worrying about the past, focus on the future and how you can smash that HSC exam. It's all you have left, so you may aswell focus all your attention on it.

I hope this helps,
and good luck! :D
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Re: Failing english advanced-RIP ATAR??
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 10:54:47 pm »
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Well was always shit at english and did try to put in alot of work in until i was on the ground crying, but for some reason would always do awful. I did try getting feedback from teachers and trying to improve but didn't help. Anyway we just had our trials for english and well after my last assessment for english i lost the plot and all my motivation. So for my exams i would be shocked if got at least 35-40% for english. For my other subjects(maths-2u,physics,chemistry,bio) i've been predicted by my teachers a relatively good mark high 80's low 90's. So could english really stuff up my atar that bad. I understand that rank only matters for internals but being honest, my school isnt really that great at all not in top 100. Any advice etc will b appreciated.

Cheers hope everyones trials are going much better than mine :)

Hey Tino! Everyone has said great things above - Remember a strong HSC performance can turn your English mark around for sure, and even if it doesn't quite end up as high as you want, it is only a fifth of your units! Definitely not worth stressing about by itself ;D

This guide has the details if you are interested in how it could numerically impact things!

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Re: Failing english advanced-RIP ATAR??
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2017, 07:53:10 pm »
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Thanks everyone for all the advice and love. Really appreciate it, my other exams have went pretty well so has given me the motivation to not give up. I understand i still have a good chance of getting a good atar. Regardless i recently made quite a bit of money with crypto trading and it has given me the reminder that i dont only need a good atar to succeed in life!