Double Masters

[Joseph41]

What is it about the Clayton campus that doesn't tickle your whiskers? It really does sound like Laws/Arts would be a great double degree for you.

[Glasses]

If I were to complete the undergraduate degree at UoM, I'd focus on linguistics subjects and law breadth subjects (eg. free speech and media law, principles of business law, etc.).

Thanks for the advice, Glasses. I really appreciate it.

Do you know how much it costs to complete the double degree at Monash?

No worries
Excluding your Student Services and Amenities Fee, Arts/Law at Monash costs approximately $47,838 with CSP, and without repeating any units.

If you've got any questions regarding Arts/Law at Monash, feel free to hit me up!

Can personally attribute. I've been working for 6 months and have paid a whopping ~$1,000 of my debt (I dont know the exact number). AMAZING. I get around $112 taken out of my pay for HECS every fortnight. So you know, without voluntary contributions, you will take forever to pay your HECS off. The higher it is, the longer it takes to pay off.

help me

 

[Joseph41]

ALSO, I know you've read this first article, clarke54321, but the second one (just published) might also be interesting for you.

The Benefits of an Arts Degree - By a Current Law Student
Taking the Long Road to Law

[Aaron]

Arts/Law at Monash costs $47,838 with CSP

That makes sense. Most law subjects are in band 3 HECS so they cost the most.

I've attached the table for student contribution (HECS-HELP/CSP) amount ranges for the upcoming year (reference). Keep in mind those are yearly (full time load) amounts. So the subjects you are doing fall into one of these three bands and are charged on a per-subject basis (so not that yearly amount). If you've got subjects all over the place then the cost varies. If they are all from the same, expect to pay around that range per year.

My band 1 subjects last year were charged at $792.00 per subject. I'm sure somebody who is doing a band 3 course can provide how much they had to contribute for each sub.

[clarke54321]

What is it about the Clayton campus that doesn't tickle your whiskers? It really does sound like Laws/Arts would be a great double degree for you.

Ugh...when I think about it, it seems utterly petty 

I've always been drawn to the city feel of Melbourne, as well as the lovely grounds, architecture and newly built Arts West. I don't feel the same inspiration when I visit Monash. But perhaps things will change with time.

ALSO, I know you've read this first article, clarke54321, but the second one (just published) might also be interesting for you.
The Benefits of an Arts Degree - By a Current Law Student
Taking the Long Road to Law

Ah, thank-you. I'll be sure to give it a read 

If you've got any questions regarding Arts/Law at Monash, feel free to hit me up!

Awesome, Glasses! Is it possible to underload in Arts/Law (studying 3 subjects per semester, instead of 4)?

[peterpiper]

Ugh...when I think about it, it seems utterly petty 

I've always been drawn to the city feel of Melbourne, as well as the lovely grounds, architecture and newly built Arts West. I don't feel the same inspiration when I visit Monash. But perhaps things will change with time.

dw clarke. There was a study that took this into account, and it was found that people who made a decision on their 'gut-feeling' tended to find more satisfaction with their decision especially when it came to decisions that affected majorly one's life. But yeh fuck - arts west is sexy. But it's important to also keep in mind that arts west is public - you can actually go in there and study during public hours and you don't even have to be a student to be there. Annd if you have a friend who has internet access, you can yknow...not that I'm encouraging anything.

[clarke54321]

dw clarke. There was a study that took this into account, and it was found that people who made a decision on their 'gut-feeling' tended to find more satisfaction with their decision especially when it came to decisions that affected majorly one's life. But yeh fuck - arts west is sexy. But it's important to also keep in mind that arts west is public - you can actually go in there and study during public hours and you don't even have to be a student to be there. Annd if you have a friend who has internet access, you can yknow...not that I'm encouraging anything.

Haha! Thanks for the input, peterpiper. My gut says yes to Monash for course, and my gut says yes to Melbourne for vibe. Hopefully I'll be able to reconcile this internal crisis before Feb 2

[brenden]

The question, for me, comes down to why you're doing law and how much you're weighting the legal qualification in terms of importance/value (or even, what you're thinking in terms of employment). I mean, at 23/24 years old, you've got two degrees, you've just finished studying hard for 6-7 years including Year 12... you face a choice... "Wow, I'm glad uni's over, that was tough! Okay... now, I can practise law or seek full-time employment in the legal field or even pursue journalism as a profession... Or I could study intensely for a little while longer!"

Let's be real, my phraseology is obviously leading you in a particular direction... Who knows, perhaps you're more academically inclined than I am, but I feel as if the majority of people would probably be sick of uni after two degrees. The curveball here is if you were thinking of pursuing academia in whatever you do your masters in (i.e., Linguistics).

I think, potentially, a straight Arts degree might suit. THEN you get to make the choice between whether you want to pursue Law or whether you want to further your study in another field (linguistics etc.) This sort of leads me towards advising you to just do Arts at Melbourne if that's the campus you want to be at. I mean, what is it about the double degree that's particularly compelling to you, enough for you to be in this predicament?

[clarke54321]

I think, potentially, a straight Arts degree might suit. THEN you get to make the choice between whether you want to pursue Law or whether you want to further your study in another field (linguistics etc.) This sort of leads me towards advising you to just do Arts at Melbourne if that's the campus you want to be at. I mean, what is it about the double degree that's particularly compelling to you, enough for you to be in this predicament?

Thanks for the advice, brenden.

Ultimately, I see myself pursuing a masters in something that is unrelated to law, like Linguistics or Journalism. However, given my genuine interest in the practice of law, I'd like to have some law background, so as to enhance my skill/qualifications in my eventual master (whatever this may be).

[brenden]

Thanks for the advice, brenden.

Ultimately, I see myself pursuing a masters in something that is unrelated to law, like Linguistics or Journalism. However, given my genuine interest in the practice of law, I'd like to have some law background, so as to enhance my skill/qualifications in my eventual master (whatever this may be).

If you'd like to have some law background and also a masters, my personal perspective is that Law/Arts is a convincing winner. My personal perspective is that Arts + JD is insufficient for your aims, and Arts + JD + Masters is protracted, expensive, and demanding.

I'll also add that the only university I'd visited before doing my preferences was UniMelb because my girlfriend at the time attended that university. I chose Monash because Arts/Education, but I'd never set foot on the campus before my first day as a student there. I loved the UniMelb campus for the Hogwarts vibe. My first impression of Clayton was just, "okay, cool, this is the campus", but I grew to love it pretty intensely. I went back there this weekend for an event at the Sports hall and the love came back, too. It's a very homely campus. UniMelb might be a two-seater Ferrari, but to me, Monash is like a luxury Toyota that's still got a little bit of pizzaz, but you can fit all your friends in there and go to the drive-ins. If your gut says that Arts/Law is the right degree for you, I think you can be content with that choice and (hopefully!!!) let the campus grow on you

Anyway, that's my 2c - good luck making your choice, and I hope your university experience is as fulfilling as it is exciting!

[Glasses]

Awesome, Glasses! Is it possible to underload in Arts/Law (studying 3 subjects per semester, instead of 4)?

Yeah, absolutely! And I'll also note that if you're getting Youth Allowance, 3 units per semester is still regarded as a full-time study load by Centrelink

Also, I've recently updated this post of mine (Why I chose Monash Law over Melbourne Law) with new information and additional points, so if you think it would help, I'd recommend having a read!

Also RIP me for promoting Monash > Melbourne in the University of Melbourne Board hahahaha

[clarke54321]

If you'd like to have some law background and also a masters, my personal perspective is that Law/Arts is a convincing winner. My personal perspective is that Arts + JD is insufficient for your aims, and Arts + JD + Masters is protracted, expensive, and demanding.

I'll also add that the only university I'd visited before doing my preferences was UniMelb because my girlfriend at the time attended that university. I chose Monash because Arts/Education, but I'd never set foot on the campus before my first day as a student there. I loved the UniMelb campus for the Hogwarts vibe. My first impression of Clayton was just, "okay, cool, this is the campus", but I grew to love it pretty intensely. I went back there this weekend for an event at the Sports hall and the love came back, too. It's a very homely campus. UniMelb might be a two-seater Ferrari, but to me, Monash is like a luxury Toyota that's still got a little bit of pizzaz, but you can fit all your friends in there and go to the drive-ins. If your gut says that Arts/Law is the right degree for you, I think you can be content with that choice and (hopefully!!!) let the campus grow on you

Anyway, that's my 2c - good luck making your choice, and I hope your university experience is as fulfilling as it is exciting!

Thanks very much for your advice and support, brenden! It's greatly appreciated. I think I'll be heading to Monash 

Also, I've recently updated this post of mine (Why I chose Monash Law over Melbourne Law) with new information and additional points, so if you think it would help, I'd recommend having a read!

Excellent! This will be a fantastic read

[brenden]

Thanks very much for your advice and support, brenden! It's greatly appreciated. I think I'll be heading to Monash 

Excellent! This will be a fantastic read

You’re very welcome! I hope you have an amazing university experience... and don’t forget to dabble in philosophy!

[Sine]

I think I had the same feeling as you, I definitely liked UoM's architecture and atmosphere much better and felt more comfortable at unimelb. I kinda knew more about monash though (during year 12 did extension chem @ monash so went ~once a week, although skipped a bit) but many of the buildings were unappealing (modern architecture ) and the campus for me, atleast at the time, didn't have the "uni" feel. Ended up going to Monash since they had a course that was better suited for me in both the short term(ease of travel) and long term (postgrad/career opportunities).

P.S monash AN meet soon