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ti 89 implicit differenciation
« on: October 19, 2009, 07:58:53 pm »
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hi everyone,

does anyone know the calculator formula to solve the following problem straightaway?

find the gradient of the tangent to the curve 2(x)LN(y)-x=y at the point where y=e.

sorry, i don't really know how to use TEX so excuse the funny looking equation :(

your help willl be really really appreciated!!!

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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 08:17:47 pm »
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I don't think it can do implicit, I've tried it with /0 before, I think it treats y as a constant.
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2009, 08:27:10 pm »
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You go F3 -> D -> impDif(2*x*ln(y)-x=y,x,y)

Should give you the dy/dx, then just sub y=e into the original equation and find x, then just sub it into your equation
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 08:31:27 pm »
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Use:

impDif(Equation, independent variable, dependent variable)

E.g.


(oop Gerrysly got there)

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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 08:33:27 pm »
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Where do you find F3 -> D?
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 08:37:27 pm »
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F3, ALPHA, D

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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2009, 08:37:36 pm »
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For version 3.10 you can do as GerrySly says, but if you have (I think) version 3.01 you have do as follows:



then to implicit differentiate something:


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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 08:40:34 pm »
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Wow thanks, never knew that heh.
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2009, 09:30:50 pm »
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thanks guys, but how do you find the gradient after you found the x and y value and need to sub it in? do you use solve? or do you simply put x and y value, in this case, e, in to the equation?

gah,how come it doesn't work?

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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2009, 09:46:52 pm »
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thanks guys, but how do you find the gradient after you found the x and y value and need to sub it in? do you use solve? or do you simply put x and y value, in this case, e, in to the equation?

gah,how come it doesn't work?

ye just sub in x and y
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2009, 10:11:37 pm »
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^_^; tyty

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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2009, 10:17:16 pm »
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You can also put | x = something and y = something after your equation, saves you the trouble of pressing buttons and subbing values for x and y :P
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2009, 10:20:49 pm »
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You can also put | x = something and y = something after your equation, saves you the trouble of pressing buttons and subbing values for x and y :P
OMG that sounds familiar i think i were taught to do this but my terrible memory....@#)(*$&

do you put the |x= and | y= thing after the "impdiff()" ? and do you put an "and" between x and y?

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2009, 10:21:02 pm »
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You can also put | x = something and y = something after your equation, saves you the trouble of pressing buttons and subbing values for x and y :P

ye thats what i meant by subbing in
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Re: ti 89 implicit differenciation
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2009, 10:22:59 pm »
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You can also put | x = something and y = something after your equation, saves you the trouble of pressing buttons and subbing values for x and y :P
OMG that sounds familiar i think i were taught to do this but my terrible memory....@#)(*$&

do you put the |x= and | y= thing after the "impdiff()" ? and do you put an "and" between x and y?

ty tt

Yeap you put an "and" , you can find it in catalog :)
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