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--- Quote from: Aaron on December 13, 2018, 08:20:26 pm ---What program prereqs does Python not meet? As far as I can recall, softdev requirements are 'an object oriented programming language' (as you need this to do certain things), which Python technically can be if used in that way. In terms of PHP, it actually isn't as outdated as you think... quite a significant amount of web based solutions still use PHP.

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Ahh sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on Atarnotes as much (just trying to enjoy the school holidays as much as possible haha). I've talked to my teacher and she said that it doesn't meet with the requirements on the fact that you can't declare variables in Python. She told me that the programming language to choose has to be able to declare variables as in marking questions on the SAC and potentially exam, one mark is potentially used if the student has the correct syntax and can declare variables.

The reason why I dont want to use PHP is because I want to be able to do some projects as well as prepare myself for Algorithmics in Year 12, which I probably won't be able to use PHP for as it isn't sufficient for my needs. Although after seeing how some people have been able to use Python in SD, I don't really see why I can't.

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--- Quote from: 4See on January 17, 2019, 10:02:36 pm ---Ahh sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on Atarnotes as much (just trying to enjoy the school holidays as much as possible haha). I've talked to my teacher and she said that it doesn't meet with the requirements on the fact that you can't declare variables in Python. She told me that the programming language to choose has to be able to declare variables as in marking questions on the SAC and potentially exam, one mark is potentially used if the student has the correct syntax and can declare variables.

The reason why I dont want to use PHP is because I want to be able to do some projects as well as prepare myself for Algorithmics in Year 12, which I probably won't be able to use PHP for as it isn't sufficient for my needs.

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Hmmmm, don't think it matters too much. I used it and didn't have any problems. Do you know where this is mentioned in the Study Design/VCAA documentation? I'd guess there are a lot of school using it.

4See:

--- Quote from: FelixHarvey on January 17, 2019, 10:09:57 pm ---Hmmmm, don't think it matters too much. I used it and didn't have any problems. Do you know where this is mentioned in the Study Design/VCAA documentation? I'd guess their are a lot of school using it.

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I got my teacher to look at the programming requirements and she said that Python doesn't work well with User interfaces. I do want to use it and I'll try and get on it. Although it doesn't say that declaring variables is a requirement, I am worried about choosing a language that my teacher doesn't recommend.
I gave her this list to look at:
https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/computing/SofDevProgrammingRequirements.docx

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--- Quote from: 4See on January 17, 2019, 10:29:17 pm ---I got my teacher to look at the programming requirements and she said that Python doesn't work well with User interfaces. I do want to use it and I'll try and get on it. Although it doesn't say that declaring variables is a requirement, I am worried about choosing a language that my teacher doesn't recommend.
I gave her this list to look at:
https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/computing/SofDevProgrammingRequirements.docx

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I agree, Python doesn't have super great options for implementing UI's however I wouldn't worry about the language too much. I wouldn't even focus on the coding part of the SAT too much. Of course you want to do well in the SAT, but only 1/4 of the marks are actually for the manipulation or code that you submit. The rest is for planning, designing, testing and evaluating, To be honest, my SAT was by no means revolutionary or even great but it kind of got the job done and met all the assessment criteria.

anon101:

--- Quote from: FelixHarvey on January 17, 2019, 11:19:59 pm ---I agree, Python doesn't have super great options for implementing UI's however I wouldn't worry about the language too much. I wouldn't even focus on the coding part of the SAT too much. Of course you want to do well in the SAT, but only 1/4 of the marks are actually for the manipulation or code that you submit. The rest is for planning, designing, testing and evaluating, To be honest, my SAT was by no means revolutionary or even great but it kind of got the job done and met all the assessment criteria.

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Actually, third part libraries aren't too bad. They are actually quite nice for a first-time learner to build simple UI's.
Plus, GIMP was actually created with Python!

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