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DETAILED: All The Selective/Scholarship Exam Information [2020]
ProbotMelbourne:
--- Quote from: Di.dact on January 29, 2019, 09:49:47 pm ---No problem, I'm glad I could help. Good luck with studying for all the topics and thank you for your update on the test. It just helped a lot more people :)
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Did you go to a competitive school before trying out for NHS?
Di.dact:
--- Quote from: ProbotMelbourne on January 29, 2019, 09:52:10 pm ---Did you go to a competitive school before trying out for NHS?
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No, only 2 other people applied from my school. But, because I applied in year 9 going into year 10. I had to get more than 3 superiors to be within top 10 as the top 10 candidates were the only ones given places.
However, in your position you should aim for 2 or more superiors for the exams. Especially since almost 3000 students apply for the 800 positions. If you do go to a competitive school, with multiple other candidates applying. If you aren't confident enough to beat your peers. You could move schools and then apply with that schools name for a higher chance. But, You'd still need to do well in the exams.
If you have anymore queries please feel free to comment :)
ProbotMelbourne:
--- Quote from: Di.dact on January 29, 2019, 10:48:08 pm ---No, only 2 other people applied from my school. But, because I applied in year 9 going into year 10. I had to get more than 3 superiors to be within top 10 as the top 10 candidates were the only ones given places.
However, in your position you should aim for 2 or more superiors for the exams. Especially since almost 3000 students apply for the 800 positions. If you do go to a competitive school, with multiple other candidates applying. If you aren't confident enough to beat your peers. You could move schools and then apply with that schools name for a higher chance. But, You'd still need to do well in the exams.
If you have anymore queries please feel free to comment :)
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Thanks!
I go to a really uncompetitive school, so that’s a bonus.
I feel like I can get 2 superiors(maths n numerical) but I also have chances of getting a averages in reading comp .
Btw, I emailed the selective examiners a week ago and the test is not based on how many superiors or averages you get, that’s just an indication of how you went. It’s based on the exact mark, eg:if someone gets 40/50 in numerical, 40/60 in math, 40/50 in readin comp and 52/60 in verbal, they add the marks(40 plus 40 plus 40 plus 52) Which is 172. They compare your total mark to other people who give the test.
Even writing is out of a mark (not sure)
rakshanaraj06:
oh really?
From what I have heard, the results are based on the amount of superiors you get but you may be right too.
Also, what is a superior? I mean I know what a superior is but what mark is a superior? Is it in the 40's or 30's?
Kind Regards
Rakshana R
$noopDodd:
--- Quote from: rakshanaraj06 on January 30, 2019, 12:17:18 pm ---oh really?
From what I have heard, the results are based on the amount of superiors you get but you may be right too.
Also, what is a superior? I mean I know what a superior is but what mark is a superior? Is it in the 40's or 30's?
Kind Regards
Rakshana R
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The term "Superior" just means that you scored in the top ~11% of all students writing the exam that year (in a particular section). Not too sure what raw marks you'd need (it changes every year and is different for each section), but prep companies usually have a pretty good idea.
--- Quote from: ProbotMelbourne on January 30, 2019, 12:11:39 am ---Thanks!
I go to a really uncompetitive school, so that’s a bonus.
I feel like I can get 2 superiors(maths n numerical) but I also have chances of getting a averages in reading comp .
Btw, I emailed the selective examiners a week ago and the test is not based on how many superiors or averages you get, that’s just an indication of how you went. It’s based on the exact mark, eg:if someone gets 40/50 in numerical, 40/60 in math, 40/50 in readin comp and 52/60 in verbal, they add the marks(40 plus 40 plus 40 plus 52) Which is 172. They compare your total mark to other people who give the test.
Even writing is out of a mark (not sure)
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I haven't contacted the examiners but I doubt this is the case; selective schools typically look for students who are high-performers across the board.
If it was just based on raw marks, some students could get in by simply acing (getting 60 and 50) on the Maths and Numerical reasoning sections whilst scoring in the "below average" band for creative and analytical writing - and their raw scores would still technically be high enough to get in.
Generally, a student who achieved 4 (low) superiors and 2 above averages is more likely to get in than a student who achieves 3 extremely high superiors and below average on both the writing sections and reading comprehension, even if these two students had the same total raw scores. (Also assuming they are from the same school and equity is not a factor)
Additionally, if it was based on raw marks, they would fail to take into account that students on average may find one section easier than another.
e.g. 40/60 may be the average score in maths, but the average in verbal reasoning could be 30/60.
If the system you mentioned was implemented, students who scored a 50/60 verbal reasoning (in this example a relatively more difficult section), would not be rewarded compared to students who scored a 50/60 in maths (relatively more easy section). This would not reflect the true ability of the student who scored highly in VR, a more difficult section. If you understand how VCE subject scaling works this is a very similar concept.
Good luck!
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