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VCE vs HSC
830cracker:
Hey everyone on AN, I知 wondering about what is the level of difficulty for both vce and hsc as my family seems like about to move states next year from Vic to nsw
so yeah I知 going to be year nine next year and I was going to do Chinese second language advanced unit 1/2, plus I知 kind of wanting to do methods and biology 1/2 in year ten, then probably English language, chemistry and possibly physics or spesh or uni extension investigation(haha ik that I might have done too much planning about the future due to my procrastination of studying); and I also have self studied the year ten math plus science excel book and I have a okay report at my current school
A little fact about me is that I have lived in Sydney for two years before I entered the high school here in melb; I have had difficulties with English that time since I came from a non-English speaking country, so I didn稚 apply for the selective school test in year six; but I have heard that HSC is harder to do well in than vce if u don稚 go to a selective school, and the competition gets more intense as there is many really intelligent ppl who start ahead of this REALLY EARLY, so there might be no chance for an ordinary kid like me to over compete those ppl that goes to James ruse-_- but hopefully this is not completely true :-\
I considers myself doing fine academically at Melbourne, and I知 kind of looking for a high atar like 98 or at least 95 or above (haha hoping in reality I would not get a flat <30); but idk if I still have a chance to do well in hsc at a local non-selective high school as I always hearing ppl saying that hsc is more competitive than vce...
Thanks for reading and I will be more thankful if anyone can gives any tips or advices for this :) as I知 kind of lost and a bit desperate at the same time :'(
DrDusk:
HSC is much more academically rigorous and competitive. There is much much more competition here for the spots in the top universities and the courses generally tend to be harder.
Especially now that the syllabuses for the sciences have changed putting HSC Science on par with VCE science. HSC math is much harder than VCE, and the rest of the faculties are probably about the same.
As I stated one of the biggest subject differences is the math. Be prepared because the NSW math curriculum will really test your ability.
Borderline difference yes HSC is definitely more competitive than VCE, and you don't need to go to the top selective schools to do well.
Sine:
It shouldn't be too different victoria does have select schools and a few people do start quite early just as they would in other states.
In the end, they are both just ranking systems so the actual difficulty in subject content doesn't matter too much.
Not sure why you think you would get a <30 atar if you are doing fine academically.
Obviously there will be slight differences but not a large enough difference for it to be meaningful I think. Anyway, no one will be able to give you a proper answer to the question because basically no one will experience both VCE and HSC at the same point of their life and recieve an ATAR for both.
--- Quote from: DrDusk on September 28, 2019, 02:59:21 pm ---HSC is much more academically rigorous and competitive. There is much much more competition here for the spots in the top universities and the courses generally tend to be harder.
Especially now that the syllabuses for the sciences have changed putting HSC Science on par with VCE science. HSC math is much harder than VCE, and the rest of the faculties are probably about the same.
As I stated one of the biggest subject differences is the math. Be prepared because the NSW math curriculum will really test your ability.
Borderline difference yes HSC is definitely more competitive than VCE, and you don't need to go to the top selective schools to do well.
--- End quote ---
the difficulty of math (or the subject) doesn't make it more competitive - students are given scores based on where they rank in their cohort
Aaron:
--- Quote from: DrDusk ---HSC is much more academically rigorous and competitive. There is much much more competition here for the spots in the top universities and the courses generally tend to be harder.
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is this your opinion or do you have anything to back these statements up? Have you experienced school systems in both states / unis in both states?
Genuinely interested since I don't know about the NSW system. Cheers :)
aspiringantelope:
Are VCE students also ranked with HSC students with the ATAR thing?
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