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Should English Really Be Under Timed Conditions?

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DrDusk:

--- Quote from: Geoo on October 05, 2019, 11:41:34 pm ---I'm also a STEM student and would rather english be taught to me for skills needed in the future, e.g writing reports. Definitely agree with you there! What they want you to know and regurgitate is ridiculous and doesn't teach you much other than how to do an exam..

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I disagree. I don't know about the VCE English but the HSC English teaches no actual English skills. It is a literature study for us and quite frankly I never payed attention in any of the English classes ever except year 12 and still scored in the highest band in Naplan for English. I did not gain these skills from studying the subject because I never did anything for it ever except for HSC.

As for writing reports and what not. It does not require me to write a full out essay including fancy language and whatever. All they ask for is appropriate equations and concise explanations which was taught to me not in English. English has had no impact on by ability to write scientific reports to be honest.

Sine:
Untimed conditions are impossible. I think if you were to at least lengthen the amount of time you got students would not treat it as a "3 hour exam but we have extra time" but they would think it's a 6 hour exam and that would be an increase in length/quality of every essay so I don't think it would make much of a difference.

Personally, whilst I definitely can see how students can be anxious about timings for exams and more time could benefit I don't think this is the answer for that as the quality would need to be better given the time so I don't see how that helps people rushing. The only way to counteract that is to have a word limit.

J_Rho:
How about we make English NOT in our top 4 - so it contributes to our ATAR just as much/little as any other subject?

Ionic Doc:
I feel like they should asses English similar to how they assess maths.

Exam 1: Text Response
Exam 2: Comparative Writing
Exam 3: Language Analysis

I feel like this would make a huge difference!
It seems unfair to just jam a bunch of essays in a 3 hour period. . .


--- Quote from: Geoo on October 05, 2019, 11:41:34 pm ---does it need to be in the top 4, no.

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I get where you're coming from, but if English wasn't in our top 4 then. would anyone really 'try' in the subject? 
It's one of those subjects where you do have to devote and apply yourself. Just some of my thoughts idk

 

milanander:
If english wasn't examined under timed conditions, then we'd be required to write much longer & thoroughly planned out responses which turns from just an essay to a freaking thesis. I'd rather just take the 3hrs and get it over and done with.

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