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Bachelor of science vs biomed for dentistry
hogp321:
Hey, I have a few questions in regards to which melbourne uni pathway is better for dent.
1. I put biomed first because i heard that there are more spots located to post grad med students, im not sure if this is the same for dent. Can anyone confirm?
2. I heard that science is more flexible in terms of subjects whereas biomed is more restricted and that GPA is a really important factor when it comes to post grad med/dent. So theoretically, if i chose easy subjects (in science) and got a high GPA, wouldn't that give me a better chance of getting into dent? But then if this is true, I guess its also the reason why there are less spots allocated for science undergrads.
Stormbreaker-X:
--- Quote from: hogp321 on December 26, 2020, 11:44:04 pm ---Hey, I have a few questions in regards to which melbourne uni pathway is better for dent.
1. I put biomed first because i heard that there are more spots located to post grad med students, im not sure if this is the same for dent. Can anyone confirm?
2. I heard that science is more flexible in terms of subjects whereas biomed is more restricted and that GPA is a really important factor when it comes to post grad med/dent. So theoretically, if i chose easy subjects (in science) and got a high GPA, wouldn't that give me a better chance of getting into dent? But then if this is true, I guess its also the reason why there are less spots allocated for science undergrads.
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For Monash medicine there are 50 spots allocated to biomedical science students, but only 25 spots allocated to science students. I am not too sure about Melbourne, but I heard similar things happen at Melbourne as well. My tip is if you enjoy certain majors that is offered in Biomedical science you should definitely go into that.
sweetcheeks:
There is no favouring of biomedicine over science students at Melbourne Uni for medicine or dentistry. Both degrees offer equal chance of being admitted.
Science is definitely more flexible, as there are a lot more majors to choose from and there aren't subjects that the entire cohort needs to take. The science cohort are also generally much larger and will contain a variety of people, some of whom only really care about passing (many masters require an average of 65 in the best 4 third year subjects). This can make it easier to do well in (you still need to put in a lot of effort). Biomedicine students as a cohort, are generally more competitive. I've taught both first year science and biomedicine students. The science students had a large distribution in the quality and effort of the work that they submitted. Biomeds had a much higher standard to their work (not to say that some of the science students didn't hand in exceptional work). For certain subjects and majors (e.g. pharmacology), these subjects will be a mix of science and biomedicine students.
I always recommend science to people, as I believe the more flexibility can be particularly helpful, especially as interests change over time and you may decide you don't want to do dentistry or medicine. I know people who wanted to do medicine but got to the end of their degree and went a completely different route (maths, physics etc.). I did a science degree at Melbourne Uni and was offered a position for medicine. I turned it down as I realised that I could help a lot more people by doing research than I could as a doctor.
I personally don't see the advantage of the biomedicine degree over a science degree. I understand that some people see it as more exclusive and competitive, but you will find in science there are still people who are highly competitive (my friends in third year were super competitive).
hogp321:
--- Quote from: sweetcheeks on December 27, 2020, 01:19:52 pm ---There is no favouring of biomedicine over science students at Melbourne Uni for medicine or dentistry. Both degrees offer equal chance of being admitted.
Science is definitely more flexible, as there are a lot more majors to choose from and there aren't subjects that the entire cohort needs to take. The science cohort are also generally much larger and will contain a variety of people, some of whom only really care about passing (many masters require an average of 65 in the best 4 third year subjects). This can make it easier to do well in (you still need to put in a lot of effort). Biomedicine students as a cohort, are generally more competitive. I've taught both first year science and biomedicine students. The science students had a large distribution in the quality and effort of the work that they submitted. Biomeds had a much higher standard to their work (not to say that some of the science students didn't hand in exceptional work). For certain subjects and majors (e.g. pharmacology), these subjects will be a mix of science and biomedicine students.
I always recommend science to people, as I believe the more flexibility can be particularly helpful, especially as interests change over time and you may decide you don't want to do dentistry or medicine. I know people who wanted to do medicine but got to the end of their degree and went a completely different route (maths, physics etc.). I did a science degree at Melbourne Uni and was offered a position for medicine. I turned it down as I realised that I could help a lot more people by doing research than I could as a doctor.
I personally don't see the advantage of the biomedicine degree over a science degree. I understand that some people see it as more exclusive and competitive, but you will find in science there are still people who are highly competitive (my friends in third year were super competitive).
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Great response! Could you touch on question 2 more (in terms of GPA and if its easier to get in)?
rirerire:
--- Quote from: sweetcheeks on December 27, 2020, 01:19:52 pm ---There is no favouring of biomedicine over science students at Melbourne Uni for medicine or dentistry. Both degrees offer equal chance of being admitted.
Science is definitely more flexible, as there are a lot more majors to choose from and there aren't subjects that the entire cohort needs to take. The science cohort are also generally much larger and will contain a variety of people, some of whom only really care about passing (many masters require an average of 65 in the best 4 third year subjects). This can make it easier to do well in (you still need to put in a lot of effort). Biomedicine students as a cohort, are generally more competitive. I've taught both first year science and biomedicine students. The science students had a large distribution in the quality and effort of the work that they submitted. Biomeds had a much higher standard to their work (not to say that some of the science students didn't hand in exceptional work). For certain subjects and majors (e.g. pharmacology), these subjects will be a mix of science and biomedicine students.
I always recommend science to people, as I believe the more flexibility can be particularly helpful, especially as interests change over time and you may decide you don't want to do dentistry or medicine. I know people who wanted to do medicine but got to the end of their degree and went a completely different route (maths, physics etc.). I did a science degree at Melbourne Uni and was offered a position for medicine. I turned it down as I realised that I could help a lot more people by doing research than I could as a doctor.
I personally don't see the advantage of the biomedicine degree over a science degree. I understand that some people see it as more exclusive and competitive, but you will find in science there are still people who are highly competitive (my friends in third year were super competitive).
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for the science then medicine pathway, how does that work like do they give the top students in the science cohort a place in the medicine course or...?
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