Trialling an Adbrite advertisement.

[bilgia]

I dont see why enwiabe cant get back the money he has invested...makes sense to me

[reg]

1) People taking advantage and submitting poor quality notes in greater numbers

that is why you only pay once a set of notes has reaching a certain vote/rating ratio or has been reviewed by a "committee" to be awesome

2) The time needed to administrate and implement such a system

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3) Plagiarism - people stealing other people's notes to make money off of them

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4) The other inherent legal implications

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as long as people write their own notes u can just force them to hand rights over to fsn

Edit: @below reply: or you are slack. who the fk is gunna sue a what is essentially a filehost that is providing a SERVICE to its users? the only legal minefield i can see is people photocopying textbook pages out etcc. i mean, look at the huge abundance of online literature sites or whatever that have no legal problems whatsoever.

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3) You can't have a committee check for plagiarism. Wtf? We're not the CIA...

http://www.google.com/search?q=THE+CAT+SAT+ON+THE+MAT

That kind of committee would need to be paid.

ill gladly (and im sure there are more uh "educated" people than me here willing) to do it free

2) You might find it trivial, but it's a cost/benefit analysis. Monetarily incentivising the system might benefit the consumer and thus would drive up consumer interest and use, but would that negate the loss of money and resources in setting up such a system?

MORE USERS = MORE REVENUE FROM ADS, if u model it right u can sustain profits after paying users out

i have to ask but who brainwashed you into thinking this model isnt viable

[enwiabe]

Reg, it's a legal minefield... trust me. If you have a better idea, please, I'd love to hear it. If it has merit, and gains the support of FSN, then I'll gladly implement it.

[enwiabe]

1) People taking advantage and submitting poor quality notes in greater numbers

that is why you only pay once a set of notes has reaching a certain vote/rating ratio or has been reviewed by a "committee" to be awesome

2) The time needed to administrate and implement such a system

QQQqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

3) Plagiarism - people stealing other people's notes to make money off of them

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4) The other inherent legal implications

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as long as people write their own notes u can just force them to hand rights over to fsn

1) Time + resources - Setting up a committee? That kind of committee would need to be paid. I do like your idea of using the rating system (which will already be in-built when the site goes live ) to do it, but again, it's the massive wall of bureaucracy that limits the success of such a venture.
2) You might find it trivial, but it's a cost/benefit analysis. Monetarily incentivising the system might benefit the consumer and thus would drive up consumer interest and use, but would that negate the loss of money and resources in setting up such a system?
3) You can't have a committee check for plagiarism. Wtf? We're not the CIA...
4) Legal implications are everywhere. As I said before, this idea is a legal minefield.

[nak]

With the ads, do we have to click it in order for you to get some revenue or is it as long as it appears on the site you still get revenue?

[enwiabe]

People actually have to click with the Adbrite one. That one's probably going to go pretty soon. I just need Adsense to approve me.

[nak]

but will the one that doesnt require clicking be a nuisance or the same size?

[enwiabe]

It'll be better integrated into the site. As for how much of a nuisance it is, that's up to your personal taste.

[enwiabe]

i have to ask but who brainwashed you into thinking this model isnt viable

I do not appreciate the "brainwashed" comment, especially after the respect that I showed you in dealing with your queries. I have had rigorous discussion about this exact idea, and let me tell your condescending self that it simply does not work under the current setup and at this time. It may work in the future, but there simply isn't the time or the resources to do it any time soon.

[abcat]

i have absolutely no problem with the ads on the forum, in fact i figure they are required in order to keep the forum alive.

just in terms of the notes system, the idea of ads there might be a little more controversial, considering it will be a user-contribution system. but that's irrelavent to the forum anyhow.

[enwiabe]

Ads will be generated on the notes system not for use of the notes, but for server costs and time spent creating and administrating the site and for the service that www.vcenotes.com provides.

[costargh]

Um why was the load up of vcenotes.com sooooooo slow.. I felt like I was back on dial-up!

[enwiabe]

It's... fine for me? Plus that's only a mockup of the template. It's going to fill the whole screen when it goes live...

[brendan]

so got any money yet enwiabe =P

[costargh]

The people who are advertising on here really haven't been too smart with their advertising dollars. Two of them are on low cost credit cards. They might be targetting the younger type market who use this site but not many people on this site would IMO be sucked into a credit trap =S