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James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE
xXNovaxX:
But teachers have a LARGE say in the curriculum, in fact my teacher tells me the VCAA send emails every year asking teachers to be on the VCAA Board, and to mark exams etc....so I don't think this topic is an issue per se. Teachers are also the one that make the curriculum. Also, teachers are part of Associaitions e.g. the English teachers= VATE, and humanities teachers= SEV...these are like "unions", and push for change in the curriculum
Um, nah I am happy with exam=50%
SACS=50%
And besides, I know u did put a disclaimer in brackets, but art subjects etc have exams worth 34%, tehrefore ur school work is more important, which is only logical.
But yeah =D
Nic K:
I know some people may be happy with exams being 50% and SAC's 50% but realistically it is something that a lot of students struggle with as they may not be strong with exams. I just don't think it's fair that we have a system that realistically disadvantages a fair proportion of students.
I didn't realise teacher's got the opportunity to be that involved in the designing of the curriculum. I'm still concerned about the restrictions on what can and cannot be taught though.
And yes, I put the disclaimer to note these some subjects have exams worth less.
Thanks for your response :)
lynt.br:
--- Quote from: Nic K on December 15, 2009, 10:13:51 pm ---Although by no means do I agree with the way that that he addressed the issue of VCE but he certainly does raise a good point about the fact that the VCE system is indeed flawed and there is a need to change this system.
I personally think that the system needs a dramatic change (and hopefully when I become a teacher I can eventually push for changes to make Australia have a world class education system that we are proud of). For a start, is it really fair to give a majority (in most cases) of marks for how a student performs on one day? Better yet, is it really fair for students to be marked purely on essays and tests (again, in most cases)? I wasn't aware that education was based on disadvantaging certain students.
The fact that students receive an ENTER or study score is not the issue here; it is how how we determine what those study scores and ENTER's are and how much each task counts to these things. This is what the basis of education reform should be.
There is also the issue of what is taught in VCE, how much say a teacher should have in the curriculum and the education restrictions when teaching things that are not necessarily in the course but I won't go into those things this evening.
Feel free to agree, disagree or argue with me. I don't believe that my opinion is the only, nor necessarily the right one and I like to get a sense of what other people think.
--- End quote ---
I agree that one exam having such a big influence on certain subjects is a massive flaw in the current system. It does not reward consistent school performance and can in fact ruin an entire year's worth of dedicated study in a single day. I also think that the current SAC system is huuuugely flawed. I've often suggested that instead of SACs, we have a number of internal examinations throughout the year that cover specific AOS. These internal examinations would be the same throughout Victoria, held under exam conditions and marked externally. The weightings of these exams would also be quite significant compared to SACs while the end of year exam is dropped. For instance, you could have 5 internal exams each worth 15% of your final SS and 1 final exam worth 25%. This would reward consistent performance throughout the year and also ensure if a student has a bad day on the final exam, it doesn't devastate their SS. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen because it would probably cost a bomb to implement.
SACs at the moment just aren't fair. In my school, some classes get different SACs while others do them under completely different conditions (Getting an additional period to work on a SAC compared to other classes etc.). I've seen times where students are working on SACs without any teacher supervision in an area where they could easily ask other students for help. I think I once inadvertently helped someone on their SAC because they were doing it at recess in the common room. This sort of lax attitude really shouldn't exist on something that actually affects your ENTER.
xXNovaxX:
^ Yeah I know what you mean! I like that idea of 5 "internal exams"
I also find it weird how for English SACS.....we got given our context prompt 3-5 days before the SAC, and had two 70 minute periods to work on it.
Some classes got 1 day given only....
Other SCHOOLS, didnt get the question beforehand, and only had one period...
How is this fair?
kyzoo:
I think exams should be a test of the accumulation of your skills and knowledge over the entire course, so I don't really agree with this concept of so many exams.
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