Sac Results

[AzureBlue]

Ye SACs do get standardised that's why class ranking is so important

But doesn't that mean being in a school with a strong cohort disadvantages you?

Don't think so; I think your sac mark gets standardised relative to how well your cohort goes in the exam.

Yep, that's basically it.

But don't different schools get different exams??

[m@tty]

No, everyone in the state sits the same mid year and end of year exams, and these external assessments are what is used to moderate SAC scores.

[AzureBlue]

No, everyone in the state sits the same mid year and end of year exams, and these external assessments are what is used to moderate SAC scores.

Sorry, I meant SACs, not exams. How does the standardizing process work?

[m@tty]

Look here.

But basically all that matters for SAC's is your ranking within your cohort (generally all students taking the subject in your school). This ranking is used in conjunction with the cohorts exam performance to moderate your SAC marks. The moderation process essentially matches the spread of the moderated SC marks with the spread of results on the exam(s), this is achieved by giving first ranking the highest exam mark as their SAC mark, and each of the quartiles the respective exam marks. eg. In a cohort of 100 25th ranking will receive the 25th highest exam mark as their SAC mark and 75th ranking will be given the 75th highest exam mark.

A simplistic, though flawed in some respects, view on moderation is that for your SAC mark you receive the exam score equivalent to your ranking. So if you are ranked 1st you receive the highest exam mark as your SAC mark, if you are 10th you receive the 10th highest exam mark as your SAC mark and so on(if you are ranked nth within your cohort your moderated SAC score will be the nth highest exam score ).

To save confusion I will remind you that your own exam score does not change under any circumstances,the only exception being if you are granted a derived exam score.

[AzureBlue]

Okay, thanks for clearing that up

[m@tty]

No problem.

[iillnc]

Hey I wanna ask (sorry wrong board - but u seem really helpful) m@tty
is that if u average C+ 's / B's in English Language but destroy the exam (A/ A+) what SS is possible? I heard it would be based off the strength of the cohort of your year level is that true?
Cos we got a really jenk teacher (first year, detests the subject herself, steals sacs off other schools and marked our sac AGAINST the answers she got eg. slightly different = wrong etc)
Just wanna clarify tqtqtq

[spaciiey]

I got the highest mark in our class -- and I didn't even pass -- I got 41 percent, which is definitely not worth bragging about. It was a RIDICULOUSLY hard SAC and we had pretty much NO clue what we were doing. I don't even know where he pulled the questions from. =.=

[luken93]

what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"

[darkphoenix]

what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"

Pretty hard to predict these things, because it depends on your cohort at your school too, and how hard your school makes the SACs, and how everyone else does on the exam.

[m@tty]

what would you need to get in the exam to get a 40 if you were rank 1 at your school (instead of the usual "What SAC marks would i need"

In a year like last year perhaps you could lose 15 marks, at a guess? So ~105/120. In a harder year you could stand to lose more than that; last year the exams were taken quite well by the state.

[Aqualim]

Look here.

But basically all that matters for SAC's is your ranking within your cohort (generally all students taking the subject in your school). This ranking is used in conjunction with the cohorts exam performance to moderate your SAC marks. The moderation process essentially matches the spread of the moderated SC marks with the spread of results on the exam(s), this is achieved by giving first ranking the highest exam mark as their SAC mark, and each of the quartiles the respective exam marks. eg. In a cohort of 100 25th ranking will receive the 25th highest exam mark as their SAC mark and 75th ranking will be given the 75th highest exam mark.

A simplistic, though flawed in some respects, view on moderation is that for your SAC mark you receive the exam score equivalent to your ranking. So if you are ranked 1st you receive the highest exam mark as your SAC mark, if you are 10th you receive the 10th highest exam mark as your SAC mark and so on(if you are ranked nth within your cohort your moderated SAC score will be the nth highest exam score ).

To save confusion I will remind you that your own exam score does not change under any circumstances,the only exception being if you are granted a derived exam score.

I'm probably way off;
If you were ranked 1st in SAC's, yet on the exam you ranked 2nd (in other words another person within your cohort beat you during the exam), do you get their exam score even though you scored less than them on the exam? I highly doubt that's possible, I'm assuming that instead your SAC's will get moderated to your exam score yeah?