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« on: April 24, 2010, 09:10:11 pm »
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Does anybody have the formula for the surface area of a sphere?
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Re: Related rates
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 09:12:49 pm »
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isnt it just
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 09:13:01 pm »
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Yep, SA of a sphere
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 09:13:11 pm »
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google is your best friend

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere

surface area= 4 x pi x r squared

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Re: Related rates
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 09:20:21 pm »
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Just differentiate the volume of a sphere ;D

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 09:37:52 pm »
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Just differentiate the volume of a sphere ;D

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Wow, I never heard of that way before!
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 09:45:29 pm »
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Same with a circle. .
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2010, 09:46:31 pm »
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Just differentiate the volume of a sphere ;D

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Wow, I never heard of that way before!
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This is how i've always understood it, as its a small increase of the volume gets a infinitesimally small "film" around the sphere which in turn is its surface area. This, as m@tty says, can be seen in the circle as well.
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Re: Related rates
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 08:13:01 pm »
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I have a few questions, if any1 could clarify:

1) A spherical ball of radius 4cm is coated with a layer of ice of uniform thickness. The ice melts at a uniform rate of 10cm^3 per hour. When the ice is 6cm thick, calculate the rate at which the surface area of the ice is decreasing.

2) A circular cylinder of height 6cm and base radius 4cm sits on a table with its axis vertical. A point source of light moves vertically upwards at a speed of 3cm/s above the central axis of the cylinder, casting a circular shadow on the table. Find the rate at which the radius of the shadow is decreasing when the light is at a distance 4cm above the top of the cylinder.

3) Assume that a raindrop is of spherical shape. If the raindrop accumulates moisture through condensation at a rate proportional to its surface area, show that the radius increases at a constant rate.

4) Grain is ejected from a chute at a rate of pi m^3/min and is forming a heap on a flat horizontal floor. The heap is in the form of a circular cone of semi vertical angle 45 degrees. Determine that rate at which the height is increasing 9min after opening the chute.

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Re: Related rates
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 06:35:39 pm »
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is the answer to the first question -2?

*edit* and q4, ? These could be horribly wrong tho  ::)
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Re: Related rates
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 07:31:01 pm »
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I have a few questions, if any1 could clarify:

1) A spherical ball of radius 4cm is coated with a layer of ice of uniform thickness. The ice melts at a uniform rate of 10cm^3 per hour. When the ice is 6cm thick, calculate the rate at which the surface area of the ice is decreasing.

2) A circular cylinder of height 6cm and base radius 4cm sits on a table with its axis vertical. A point source of light moves vertically upwards at a speed of 3cm/s above the central axis of the cylinder, casting a circular shadow on the table. Find the rate at which the radius of the shadow is decreasing when the light is at a distance 4cm above the top of the cylinder.

3) Assume that a raindrop is of spherical shape. If the raindrop accumulates moisture through condensation at a rate proportional to its surface area, show that the radius increases at a constant rate.

4) Grain is ejected from a chute at a rate of pi m^3/min and is forming a heap on a flat horizontal floor. The heap is in the form of a circular cone of semi vertical angle 45 degrees. Determine that rate at which the height is increasing 9min after opening the chute.

Thanks a million
is the answer to the first question -2?

*edit* and q4, ? These could be horribly wrong tho  ::)

Yeh I got -2 for the first one also:

You're looking for , which is .

To find , we use the relation .

We're given as 10, and as is obviously , that gives .

Now we can find , as it's , which is . Since (as it's the radius of the ball plus the thickness of the ice) this simplifies to give us 2, and since it's decreasing, it becomes -2.


For question 2, I remember we did the exact same question in class. If I recall correctly, you have to use similar triangles to find some of the lengths which give you the related rates you need. It's a bloody hard question though  :o
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 07:50:59 pm »
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I looked at 2 and just thought "screw that" and moved on. If I get some time tonight i'll do it, but i doubt I will :(
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Re: Related rates
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2010, 09:53:45 pm »
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Just differentiate the volume of a sphere ;D

... :P

Wow, I never heard of that way before!
*makes mental note*

This is how i've always understood it, as its a small increase of the volume gets a infinitesimally small "film" around the sphere which in turn is its surface area. This, as m@tty says, can be seen in the circle as well.
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