Oxidation of ethanol

[akira88]

For the reaction
Ethanol + potassium permanganate, what are the products besides ethanoic acid?
I tried to look for an answer but couldn't find one
Any help would be great thanks!

[Nomvalt]

I'm not too sure but I think I remember seeing somewhere that ethanol can be oxidised to ethanal and then ethanol. So ethanal would probably be the answer your looking for but I'm not sure.

[akira88]

Hmm oh aright, but I was wondering if the potassium in the potassium permanganate would react in the oxidation and produce a by product

[akira88]

Anyone else got a clue?

[Nomvalt]

Hmm oh aright, but I was wondering if the potassium in the potassium permanganate would react in the oxidation and produce a by product

actually isn't the permanganate supposed to be a catalyst? catalysts don't react in the reactions they catalysize they only speed it up.

[fady_22]

For the reaction
Ethanol + potassium permanganate, what are the products besides ethanoic acid?
I tried to look for an answer but couldn't find one
Any help would be great thanks!

Its a redox reaction: in this case, the manganese in the permanganate would be reduced to Mn2+. If dichromate is used, chromium is reduced to Cr3+.

If you write the equations out, you will also see that water is produced.

[fady_22]

Hmm oh aright, but I was wondering if the potassium in the potassium permanganate would react in the oxidation and produce a by product

actually isn't the permanganate supposed to be a catalyst? catalysts don't react in the reactions they catalysize they only speed it up.

Permanganate is not a catalyst, but an oxidant.

[vexx]

For the reaction
Ethanol + potassium permanganate, what are the products besides ethanoic acid?
I tried to look for an answer but couldn't find one
Any help would be great thanks!

Its a redox reaction: in this case, the manganese in the permanganate would be reduced to Mn2+. If dichromate is used, chromium is reduced to Cr3+.

If you write the equations out, you will also see that water is produced.

yeah i think this is right, if you used the chromium, then the products for the oxidation of ethanol at the end (completed oxidation) would be water and chromium ions.

[akira88]

For the reaction
Ethanol + potassium permanganate, what are the products besides ethanoic acid?
I tried to look for an answer but couldn't find one
Any help would be great thanks!

Its a redox reaction: in this case, the manganese in the permanganate would be reduced to Mn2+. If dichromate is used, chromium is reduced to Cr3+.

If you write the equations out, you will also see that water is produced.

yeah i think this is right, if you used the chromium, then the products for the oxidation of ethanol at the end (completed oxidation) would be water and chromium ions.

So would the products then be ethanoic acid + manganese ions and water?
And yes I know that it is a catalyst but for the experiment I am using it is a reactant, sulfuric acid for the catalyst.

Permanganate is only a catalyst in the unbalanced equation that we see in our textbooks (for the chemical pathways)

[vexx]

So would the products then be ethanoic acid + manganese ions and water?
And yes I know that it is a catalyst but for the experiment I am using it is a reactant, sulfuric acid for the catalyst.

Permanganate is only a catalyst in the unbalanced equation that we see in our textbooks (for the chemical pathways)

yes i think it would be that. you really don't need to know this though haha we didn't even cover this when doing organic reaction pathways/reaction mechanisms in first year chem :p

[akira88]

So would the products then be ethanoic acid + manganese ions and water?
And yes I know that it is a catalyst but for the experiment I am using it is a reactant, sulfuric acid for the catalyst.

Permanganate is only a catalyst in the unbalanced equation that we see in our textbooks (for the chemical pathways)

Haha thanks for that!
yes i think it would be that. you really don't need to know this though haha we didn't even cover this when doing organic reaction pathways/reaction mechanisms in first year chem :p

[fady_22]

So would the products then be ethanoic acid + manganese ions and water?
And yes I know that it is a catalyst but for the experiment I am using it is a reactant, sulfuric acid for the catalyst.

Permanganate is only a catalyst in the unbalanced equation that we see in our textbooks (for the chemical pathways)

yes i think it would be that. you really don't need to know this though haha we didn't even cover this when doing organic reaction pathways/reaction mechanisms in first year chem :p

I don't think permanganate OR sulfuric acid are catalysts in the reaction, but are both reactants-- in the redox reaction, hydrogen ions from the sulfuric acid form water and the permanganate is the oxidant.
The unbalanced equations with the reagents on the top of the arrow do not necessarily indicate a catalyst, but are just written that way for convenience-- imagine having to write out the whole redox reaction each time!

[Mao]

I don't think permanganate OR sulfuric acid are catalysts in the reaction, but are both reactants-- in the redox reaction, hydrogen ions from the sulfuric acid form water and the permanganate is the oxidant.
The unbalanced equations with the reagents on the top of the arrow do not necessarily indicate a catalyst, but are just written that way for convenience-- imagine having to write out the whole redox reaction each time!

^^This.