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UMEP Maths
AzureBlue:
--- Quote from: appianway on May 24, 2010, 06:09:59 pm ---Hmm, I don't think any of the olympiad kids do maths at MGGS, but some of the Mac.Rob girls are still very strong *cough*Joyce*cough*others*cough*
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Lol am I the only one here who has no idea who this Joyce person is? :P It amazes me that MacRob/Melb High are quite good at the science olympiads but no Macrobbians and only 1 Melb High guy got into the maths ever. Do you get training at school for the sciences?
appianway:
Well, I go to school with Joyce so I know her :) Mac.Rob has no training whatsoever in the science. None.
Mac.Rob probably has low representation in the maths because we don't actually sit AIMO. The only girls who even get invited to sit competitions such as AMOC get selected because they do outstandingly in other competitions... and it's very rare to be invited solely on the basis of these. It also means that Mac.Rob is completely left out of the olympiad training cycle.
tram:
--- Quote from: appianway on May 25, 2010, 09:39:51 pm ---Well, I go to school with Joyce so I know her :) Mac.Rob has no training whatsoever in the science. None.
Mac.Rob probably has low representation in the maths because we don't actually sit AIMO. The only girls who even get invited to sit competitions such as AMOC get selected because they do outstandingly in other competitions... and it's very rare to be invited solely on the basis of these. It also means that Mac.Rob is completely left out of the olympiad training cycle.
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wow, that sucks :(
appianway:
Yeah, it explains why Mac.Rob's probably had about 5 past science olympians (if you include this year), but never any in maths. And yes, there was one girl at school who was selected on the basis of her MUMC result to sit AMOC (for the same reason as AzureBlue), but most people don't take that competition at school (and most of the people who do (like myself) don't take it seriously at all...), so it's pretty much impossible as a Mac.Robbian...
rustic_metal:
--- Quote from: tram on May 23, 2010, 07:38:50 pm ---in the nicest possible way, then mabey that means you shoudn''t do umep. In all seriousness, umep maths is a pretty hard slog. Like i know kyzoo and meself both find umep very challenging, most of the time in the lecture, we don;t understand what going on, we just copy down whats happening on the baord and have to work thu the notes at home to actually understand what going on. This is opposed to spech where, while it is by no means easy, i will actually understand everything that is going on on the board when the teacher writes is down. As oppsoed to umep, when i'm alwys dazzles and about 3-4 examples behind.
yea, basically, there's a reson why they require you to have A's in GMA, and that is to make sure you can cope with the course
having said, that i am a very strong advocate for doing umep and think that it is a fantastic subject to challenge yourself if you like maths and is very rewarding when you are able to do a tricky problem.
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--- Quote from: tram on May 22, 2010, 07:47:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: cherylim23 on May 22, 2010, 06:21:53 pm ---Is it hard to do a UMEP subject in good schools? Because you have to be top 5% of the cohort, apparently..
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if you get can get a's in GMA and get above 40 ish you could probs get away with 37, you will get in, if your shcool is happy for you to do so
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Naaaaahhhhhhh. I got a 31 in spesh, then a H1 in UMEP maths the year after by cramming the week before. It's not that bad.
--- Quote from: tram on May 22, 2010, 05:34:19 pm ---pretty much, i think that in umep, we do a more than uni students would do in just accelerated maths one tho...
there has a been a shift to much more of an emphasis on linear algebra tho recently in umep
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Yeah UMEP is actually equivalent to almost all of Calculus 2 and Linear Algebra, plus a small amount of Real Analysis (all you miss is first order ODEs, which are easy). Even though you don't technically get credit for them, you can still get into subjects requiring them as prereqs without them if you're smart about it. I got into Vector Calculus and Engineering Mathematics fine. On the flipside, my mate got kicked out of eng maths when they realised he hadn't fulfilled the pre-reqs.
Moral: If you never go to class, they don't know who you are and can't kick you out. ;)
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