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Alkane substituition
« on: June 07, 2010, 06:06:40 pm »
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Doesn't alkanes react with OH- (NaOH or KOH) to produce alkanol?
Insight said it reacts with water..i thought water was more for addition?

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 06:08:16 pm »
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the preferred pathway is to have a chloroalkane undergo a substitution reaction to form an alkanol.
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 06:10:56 pm »
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Insight said it reacts with water..i thought water was more for addition?

I think it does, just that the yield is very very small
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 06:18:40 pm »
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so how does the yield become higher when with water?O.o

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 06:35:15 pm »
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so how does the yield become higher when with water?O.o
they yield with water is very low

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 06:39:37 pm »
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So am i right then? NaOH+alkane=alkanol?

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 06:41:57 pm »
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you need to add Cl2 first and then NaOH to make alkanol
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 06:42:39 pm »
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no, alkane +cl2 -> chloroalkane +hcl

chloroalkane + naoh -> alkanol +nacl

EDIT: http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,26404.msg267249.html#msg267249 for my small list of pathways including states.
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 06:58:18 pm »
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn! yes! sorry guys didn't realise =.=

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 08:13:33 pm »
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn! yes! sorry guys didn't realise =.=
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 08:29:43 pm »
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No it doesn't. A catalyst like Chlorine, a halogen, will attack the hydrogen atoms connected to the carbons and substitute them. Then because Cl is highly eletronegative, OH- can sneak up and  replace the chlorine, forming an alkanol.

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 08:31:19 pm »
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Chlorine isnt the catalyst, in a substitution reaction, UV light is the catalyst and that is what provides the energy to break the Cl-Cl bond
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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 08:44:19 pm »
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Chlorine isnt the catalyst, in a substitution reaction, UV light is the catalyst and that is what provides the energy to break the Cl-Cl bond

Yeah oops, I'm just so used to writing it above the arrow -_-

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Re: Alkane substituition
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 08:46:40 pm »
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Chlorine isnt the catalyst, in a substitution reaction, UV light is the catalyst and that is what provides the energy to break the Cl-Cl bond

Yeah oops, I'm just so used to writing it above the arrow -_-

lol !
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