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Circular functions.
« on: June 17, 2010, 04:44:29 pm »
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How would I possibly find the integral of this...



Assistance is appreciated.
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2010, 05:27:32 pm »
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well

so, integrating both sides, we have

so

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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2010, 05:30:56 pm »
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Ahh, thank you!
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2010, 05:40:00 pm »
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Just a question, how did you get the first line with
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2010, 05:41:59 pm »
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how to integrate the un-integratable:

http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,7092.0.html

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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2010, 05:42:53 pm »
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might be a methods concept, but i've used it heapsssss in spech this year, it's also known as integration by recognition, a very useful tool :)

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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2010, 05:43:09 pm »
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Thank you for that link, the explanation was what I needed.
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2010, 05:51:40 pm »
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np :) having said that, there are obvious limitations to the rule, e.g. you can't integrate any function you can't derive e.g. sec(x), and multiplying x*arcsin(x) by x then deriving it won't work either

ps: soz for the lack of latex >.< i'm a major noob when it comes to using latex

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2010, 05:55:44 pm »
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ps: soz for the lack of latex >.< i'm a major noob when it comes to using latex

Lol, practice practice practice... :P
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2010, 05:56:05 pm »
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np :) having said that, there are obvious limitations to the rule, e.g. you can't integrate any function you can't derive e.g. sec(x), and multiplying x*arcsin(x) by x then deriving it won't work either

ps: soz for the lack of latex >.< i'm a major noob when it comes to using latex

It's fine, I have trouble with it too.. Takes me so long to do it, lol.
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2010, 05:57:54 pm »
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ps: soz for the lack of latex >.< i'm a major noob when it comes to using latex
Lol, practice practice practice... :P
How did you learn latex? Off a book or something?

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2010, 05:58:56 pm »
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ps: soz for the lack of latex >.< i'm a major noob when it comes to using latex
Lol, practice practice practice... :P
How did you learn latex? Off a book or something?

Hell no, just bit by bit from http://vcenotes.com/viki/index.php/Help:LaTeX :P
The codes are easy to memorise though
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2010, 10:46:35 pm »
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The methods suggested in this thread are mainly specific applications of Integration by Parts, not part of the VCE Specialist course, but good to know.

A less orthodox method using Specialist knowledge is:



1. Graphing
Consider the definite integral , where both

Shade in this definite integral. Draw a rectangle from (0,0) to (x2,y2), it can be seen that there are three regions:

Rectangle with corners (0,0) and (x1,y1). Definite integral along the x axis. Definite integral along the y axis.

Thus, the definite integral required can be calculated by:





2. Integral along y
Here, the definite integral is evaluated along the y axis. The terminals are now and the function is .

Thus,

3. Simplifying

At this point, draw a right-angled triangle with one of the opposite side length p, adjacent side length 1, thus the hypotenuse is by Pythagoras' theorem. Thus





Thus,

Putting everything together:





It can be shown that for integration from negative to positive x values give the same form (break it down into from 0 to x2, and x1 to 0, integration over the negative region is the same as but negative of the positive region due to symmetrical properties).

Thus, by the fundamental theorem of Calculus (part II) that , it is shown that

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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2010, 03:46:52 pm »
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That is genius.

But it's not in the spesh study design is it?
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Re: Circular functions.
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 10:50:44 pm »
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The methods suggested in this thread are mainly specific applications of Integration by Parts, not part of the VCE Specialist course, but good to know.

A less orthodox method using Specialist knowledge is:



1. Graphing
Consider the definite integral , where both

Shade in this definite integral. Draw a rectangle from (0,0) to (x2,y2), it can be seen that there are three regions:

Rectangle with corners (0,0) and (x1,y1). Definite integral along the x axis. Definite integral along the y axis.

Thus, the definite integral required can be calculated by:





2. Integral along y
Here, the definite integral is evaluated along the y axis. The terminals are now and the function is .

Thus,

3. Simplifying

At this point, draw a right-angled triangle with one of the opposite side length p, adjacent side length 1, thus the hypotenuse is by Pythagoras' theorem. Thus





Thus,

Putting everything together:





It can be shown that for integration from negative to positive x values give the same form (break it down into from 0 to x2, and x1 to 0, integration over the negative region is the same as but negative of the positive region due to symmetrical properties).

Thus, by the fundamental theorem of Calculus (part II) that , it is shown that



... Just no comment on that
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