Short Term Memory and Working Memory

[hawks08]

Can someone explain these 2 for me? Not really understanding them. Are they they same thing? Is working memory a sub-system of the STM?
Thanks it is much appreciated

[vexx]

it's outlined quite well in the grivas' textbook (if your using that go through it!),
but basically STM is the storage system that holds limited information for a limited time, that was transferred from sensory memory when paid attention too, and if rehearsed moves to long term memory.
working memory is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory.

[hawks08]

it's outlined quite well in the grivas' textbook (if your using that go through it!),
but basically STM is the storage system that holds limited information for a limited time, that was transferred from sensory memory when paid attention too, and if rehearsed moves to long term memory.
working memory is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory.

oh i think i understand it now. I am using the grivas textbook but for some reason it just made me more confused. So what your saying is that Working memory is just a different theory for STM?

[vexx]

it's outlined quite well in the grivas' textbook (if your using that go through it!),
but basically STM is the storage system that holds limited information for a limited time, that was transferred from sensory memory when paid attention too, and if rehearsed moves to long term memory.
working memory is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory.

oh i think i understand it now. I am using the grivas textbook but for some reason it just made me more confused. So what your saying is that Working memory is just a different theory for STM?

pretty much yep:)

[hawks08]

it's outlined quite well in the grivas' textbook (if your using that go through it!),
but basically STM is the storage system that holds limited information for a limited time, that was transferred from sensory memory when paid attention too, and if rehearsed moves to long term memory.
working memory is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory.

oh i think i understand it now. I am using the grivas textbook but for some reason it just made me more confused. So what your saying is that Working memory is just a different theory for STM?

pretty much yep:)

thanks because in the grivas book it says that " working memory is now preferred to psychologists rather than stm" which made be think it was exactly the same thing
and then i read in the a+ book "working memory is a function of stm" which made me think that it was a sub-system. Got me all peeved off because even the teachers explanation absolutely made no sense to me

[vexx]

haha yeah it's a little confusing at first, but they are both just different concepts of the same system

[Glockmeister]

Yeah - that's what you get for having different researchers calling it different things.

Most Psychologists prefer using the term working memory nowadays because it describes the system better than Short-Term Memory. That particular memory store you can manipulate information coming in from the Sensory Memory as well as information from Long-Term Memory.

[hawks08]

so from reading all this and and going over books etc again, would this be a correct  basic summary of their relationship?
" the stm holds the information from the encoded sensory memory or retrieved info from LTM but the working memory maipulates it"

[vexx]

so from reading all this and and going over books etc again, would this be a correct  basic summary of their relationship?
" the stm holds the information from the encoded sensory memory or retrieved info from LTM but the working memory maipulates it"

ehh it's better to say stm temporarily holds attended info. from sensory memory and if rehearsed transferred to LTM; working memory is another term for stm describing the retrieval of info. from ltm while it is being used..

more wordy but more correct if you wanted a basic summary

[hawks08]

so from reading all this and and going over books etc again, would this be a correct  basic summary of their relationship?
" the stm holds the information from the encoded sensory memory or retrieved info from LTM but the working memory maipulates it"

so once information is processed by working memory, it is temporarily stored(for around 18-20 seconds) in stm

ehh it's better to say stm temporarily holds attended info. from sensory memory and if rehearsed transferred to LTM; working memory is another term for stm describing the retrieval of info. from ltm while it is being used..

more wordy but more correct if you wanted a basic summary

[vexx]

so from reading all this and and going over books etc again, would this be a correct  basic summary of their relationship?
" the stm holds the information from the encoded sensory memory or retrieved info from LTM but the working memory maipulates it"

so once information is processed by working memory, it is temporarily stored(for around 18-20 seconds) in stm

ehh it's better to say stm temporarily holds attended info. from sensory memory and if rehearsed transferred to LTM; working memory is another term for stm describing the retrieval of info. from ltm while it is being used..

more wordy but more correct if you wanted a basic summary

no working memory as i said "is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory."
so it is used and then returned to ltm.

[hawks08]

so from reading all this and and going over books etc again, would this be a correct  basic summary of their relationship?
" the stm holds the information from the encoded sensory memory or retrieved info from LTM but the working memory maipulates it"

so once information is processed by working memory, it is temporarily stored(for around 18-20 seconds) in stm

ehh it's better to say stm temporarily holds attended info. from sensory memory and if rehearsed transferred to LTM; working memory is another term for stm describing the retrieval of info. from ltm while it is being used..

more wordy but more correct if you wanted a basic summary

no working memory as i said "is just another concept of STM, but it is different, in that it is the information taken from long-term memory while it is being used, and thought about before being returned to long-term memory."
so it is used and then returned to ltm.

argh by brain is fizzled, thanks for the help guys but after 3 SACs today I seem unable to be able to learn anymore concepts. I am going to bed. Thanks anyway