BSc/BE @ monash?

[TrueLight]

"they get a decent pay (starting salary of 70k+? or something like that)"

"but engineering is $$$ and seems a waste to let that go =/"

"i wouldnt say im good at maths... im "ok" and i dont mind doing it, not enjoy it, and i wouldnt really want to do it for a living..."

i thought astrophysics etc... has quite a lot of maths in it

[Mao]

Haha, that's even worse than my motive. "Hmm Engineering will pay me to study, science won't, I'll do a double degree."
Look at where I am now?

@99.95, take a word of warning. If you go into engineering want to just earn a good salary, and you don't actually have a passion for computing or mathematics, I suggest you go into commerce or something. Believe me when I say that you will need passion to pull you through engineering. If you think it's a waste to let a high score go to a science degree, you can't be more wrong. Work hard and pull a doctorate in science, and you can laugh in the graduate engineers' faces.

[Cthulhu]

@99.95, if you hate programming, why are you even considering engineering? You do realise the entire engineering profession heavily relies on computing right?

He's only in it for the free microsoft shit.

[TrueLight]

i wish i got microsoft for free =( but i paid like 75 bucks so its all good
i need to learn how to use endnote seriously...lol

but yeah i suggest to 99.95 to research into this course to see if it suits you... the units, afterwards what you can do and look at the research projects are those topics what you think you might enjoy...

or you might be like Mao and start it and then drop it lateron... but yeah look into it first

[crappy]

---Off topic----

Guys, where is this free microsoft shit?? I haven't been given any free software

[98.40_for_sure]

Lol ok now im so unsure about going into Eng... i've been researching this double degree course for the past 2 weeks non-stop! literally read all the unit descriptions etc.
Everything in the Science degree im interested, chemical engineering seems to be like it would be something i 'could possibly' enjoy as well as being able to cope with the work... I've actually thought about BSc/BComm but i've never had any interest in business related stuff? Just reading the descriptions doesn't light up any light bulbs in my head. I said before that i hated biology related stuff... but i watched XMEN last night and the whole evolution and stuff is interesting (lol im an idiot yes)

ARGHHH so many courses and so low interest in me!

[jimmy999]

Don't worry it can take forever to decide what course you want to do. I started looking at courses in year 9 and it wasn't until year 11 that I decided I wanted to do Chemical Engineering. Even so it wasn't until year 12 that I decided upon the double degree. By the looks of it you really needed more time but keep going through courses until the cutoff date.

Currently it seems studying science would be much better for you. I would recommend it. If you do Sci Advanced, you get the option of doing units outside the science faculty. You could use that to try out other subjects and then transfer into that if you want.

[schmalex]

If you do a science degree at Melbourne you can do chemical engineering as breadth and then if you don't like engineering just drop it easily and end up with a science degree. Kind of the same thing except that it would probably be easier to drop the engineering, plus you don't have to worry about a dodgy physics department, although engineering at melbourne is apparently not as good.

[98.40_for_sure]

Ahh well the only thing that is restricting me is the only uni i can go to is Monash Clayton. Travelling anywhere else would require long public transport rides and i get sick really easily... and ive heard monash has a really good reputation, around same as UoM, so i guess that would be impressive to employers post grad.
Hmm what do you think of BBioMedSc/BSc vs BSc/BE? in terms of:
- job availability after grad
- difficulty of course
- job salary

i realise that it is affected by what i choose to major in etc but generally?
no matter what i do, i want BSc in there as well so i can major in astrophysics, is my dream
Ive read the BioMed course and it actually seems really interesting, but my dad said that if i do this, theres no guarantee i'll have a good job (or even A job)
i know someone who has a PhD in biomed, majoring in immunology, hes just finished at uni after 10 or so years, and he has no job ever since, cant find one

[TrueLight]

anything to do with biology is a no no

Ive read the BioMed course and it actually seems really interesting

have you changed your mind?

not sure if anyone here does biomed/science ... if someone does they could probably be more specific

but in terms of difficulty i would say both are difficult and would require a lot of work and dedication with the biomed/science a lot of prac reports, tests, assignments, exams etc... but i guess the difficulty would depend on how much you are enjoying the course because usually if you really like something it doesn't matter what work your given you do it and if you hate the course you usually find it very difficult... look through the course structure and units you will be doing

job salary not sure scientists don't get a lot of money but if you want to do science you better do it for interest rather than for money cause you'll be dissapointed... but it also depends what job you get...if you work in industry you usually get more money than in research work...and monash has good ties with research side of things so if your a good student and motivated + a sprinkle of luck then it should be no problem, although it is competitive...

[98.40_for_sure]

anything to do with biology is a no no

Ive read the BioMed course and it actually seems really interesting

have you changed your mind?

not sure if anyone here does biomed/science ... if someone does they could probably be more specific

but in terms of difficulty i would say both are difficult and would require a lot of work and dedication with the biomed/science a lot of prac reports, tests, assignments, exams etc... but i guess the difficulty would depend on how much you are enjoying the course because usually if you really like something it doesn't matter what work your given you do it and if you hate the course you usually find it very difficult... look through the course structure and units you will be doing

job salary not sure scientists don't get a lot of money but if you want to do science you better do it for interest rather than for money cause you'll be dissapointed... but it also depends what job you get...if you work in industry you usually get more money than in research work...and monash has good ties with research side of things so if your a good student and motivated + a sprinkle of luck then it should be no problem, although it is competitive...

lol yeah my mind changed after watching xmen

so pretty much if my interest is scientific, should i try and get 95.05+, science advanced with honours? although... i dont see if that leads anywhere with good job/pay

what about doing biomed/sc... specialising in something (ie. pathology or pharmacology)... then becoming a specialist in that area? that sounds like it would be interesting and also get paid a lot.
im just unsure if htat would require some sort of post grad education or if the bachelor of bbiomedsc and bachelor of sci is enough. masters or something?

[Glockmeister]

If you're looking towards going into research you must do a PhD - I haven't seen an academic biomedical scientist with anything less.

[98.40_for_sure]

If you're looking towards going into research you must do a PhD - I haven't seen an academic biomedical scientist with anything less.

umm is there such thing as PhD in astronomy/astrophysics? and what would that lead to? what kind of career? sorry i dont know anything about this stuff lol :X

[crappy]

If you're looking towards going into research you must do a PhD - I haven't seen an academic biomedical scientist with anything less.

umm is there such thing as PhD in astronomy/astrophysics? and what would that lead to? what kind of career? sorry i dont know anything about this stuff lol :X

Yes, there is. You would become an astrophysicist or a university lecturer. But remember, there are hardly any astrophysics jobs in australia... so you would be looking to go overseas for better jobs.

Might want to take a look at this first before you make up your mind on astro

http://www.abc.net.au/acedayjobs/cooljobs/profiles/s2384514.htm


"Permanent jobs in astronomy are not easy to come by (there are only around 100 in Australia)."

[98.40_for_sure]

Yeah, i was thinking maybe move to USA? Cos there's NASA and astro is a bigger thing over there than in aus... but it seems so risky heading down that pathway, might end up jobless