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Acid-Base assumption
« on: August 04, 2010, 09:34:07 pm »
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When we have some equation like HA + H2O => A- + H3O+
We know that [A-]=[H3O+]
But what if the coefficients are different? E.g. HA + H2O => 2A- + H3O+ (I know its unbalanced but you get what I mean)
Do we just do [A-]=2[H3O+]?

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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 09:37:40 pm »
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It can't be different, because the acid is simply "donating" a proton, thus only the H+ is moving from one and onto another
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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 09:38:36 pm »
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When we have some equation like HA + H2O => A- + H3O+
We know that [A-]=[H3O+]
But what if the coefficients are different? E.g. HA + H2O => 2A- + H3O+ (I know its unbalanced but you get what I mean)
Do we just do [A-]=2[H3O+]?

Well, a different reaction (and K value) is usually given for each ionisation, so it will almost always have a one to one ratio. But if that were to happen, that would be a safe assumption.
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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 10:32:14 pm »
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Oh ok, so I was worrying about something impossible haha!

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 05:06:08 pm »
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If Ka for a particular solution do we assume the pH is low and that the reactants are greatly ionised in water

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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 07:10:50 pm »
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If Ka for a particular solution do we assume the pH is low and that the reactants are greatly ionised in water

You mean if it's high? If the Ka is high, then most of the acid molecules ionise, resulting in a low pH.
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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 07:23:10 pm »
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Yeah i don't understand waht you're trying to say... but Ka = extent of ionisation = [H3O+]

pH is inversely related to [H3O+]
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Re: Acid-Base assumption
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 10:17:39 pm »
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Yea high sorry.