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..Latin Difficult Exam?
wildareal:
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--- Quote from: EPL.11.4ever. on August 13, 2010, 10:09:38 pm ---Latin, I believe is a difficult subject to master. There are many tables you need to know/learn (i.e. tenses - indicative, subjunctive etc) and thus, students may sometimes get confused between tenses/declensions etc. Basically, what we do in my Latin class as part of testing is unseen translations, grammar sheets (english to latin), vocab tests and seen passage/grammar/comprehension (this test is rolled in as one test) tests.
Thus, as Latin is a difficult language to learn... the VCAA makes the scaling for Latin incredibly high. - i.e. if a student got 30 for Latin as a raw score it would be scaled up to 42~46 or something (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm yet to see the Year 12 Latin Exam... but I assuming that it would be challenging to say the least. :P
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Yeah all that stuff would be so annoying to go through, it's why i would hate to ever have to study it in class.
But the exam requires none of that, it's just translating, responding in english and some parts talking about literary devices, so you don't need to know the grammar just need to know how to read!
Average score is ~46 which is ridiculous haha.
Here is last years exam, tell me if you still think it's THAT challenging to get an average score http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/lote/latin/pastexams/2009/2009latin-w.pdf
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Knowledge of Grammar is absolutely essential in the Unseen Translation. Words in Latin aren't like in English or French. They are inflected-every case NOMINATIVE ACCUSATIVE has a different ending etc. Same with verbs. There are about 70 different forms of one verb-Subjunctive, Indicative, Imperative, Passive etc. Also there is no word order, so it becomes even harder to group words. That said, the exam is not overly difficult-however they do mark it very very harshly.
EvangelionZeta:
I'd like to reinforce that Latin gets marked extremely harshly. It might look "easy" to answer the questions, but the system IS such that even kids who get mid-high 40s in their other subjects struggle to break 30 (from anecdotal evidence).
vexx:
Oh okay, that would make sense for it to be marked harshly. Perhaps it is difficult to get the state average, but it just didn't appear so (i don't even do latin haa) and i still wouldn't even be able to gauge the difficulty of the exam even if you explained it to me.. so i'll just listen that it is ^__^ it is 'latin' after all.
the.watchman:
--- Quote from: vexx on August 14, 2010, 10:08:15 am ---Oh okay, that would make sense for it to be marked harshly. Perhaps it is difficult to get the state average, but it just didn't appear so (i don't even do latin haa) and i still wouldn't even be able to gauge the difficulty of the exam even if you explained it to me.. so i'll just listen that it is ^__^ it is 'latin' after all.
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Also, because of its difficulty, I'd say that only the students who are good at the subject would do it, unlike in some other subjects. As a result, it would be much harder to get a good mark in it
wildareal:
--- Quote from: the.watchman on August 14, 2010, 10:56:45 am ---
--- Quote from: vexx on August 14, 2010, 10:08:15 am ---Oh okay, that would make sense for it to be marked harshly. Perhaps it is difficult to get the state average, but it just didn't appear so (i don't even do latin haa) and i still wouldn't even be able to gauge the difficulty of the exam even if you explained it to me.. so i'll just listen that it is ^__^ it is 'latin' after all.
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Also, because of its difficulty, I'd say that only the students who are good at the subject would do it, unlike in some other subjects. As a result, it would be much harder to get a good mark in it
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Exactly! Everyone in my cohort is very strong!
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