Spec Revision

[Chavi]

EDIT: lol just realised that you learnt the spech course over the summer hols and did papers thouhg out the year WHILE being re-taught the stuff at school lol

Do you believe this was a benefit TT?
I'm concurrently doing 3/4 methods course (starting to) with my 1/2, and I want to finish the remainder of the 3/4 course by the time school starts next year.
Do you reckon I should use the book that I will be using next year in class (Essentials) or work/learn concepts outta another book so that I'm not bored and already know the answers next year?
Btw can this be applied to Chem aswell?

I would actually disagree with this approach. It means that you're bored in class, and your not learning from your teacher. Better to build up your knowledge gradually throughout the year, rather than try to cram everything into 2 months.

[TrueTears]

EDIT: lol just realised that you learnt the spech course over the summer hols and did papers thouhg out the year WHILE being re-taught the stuff at school lol

Do you believe this was a benefit TT?
I'm concurrently doing 3/4 methods course (starting to) with my 1/2, and I want to finish the remainder of the 3/4 course by the time school starts next year.
Do you reckon I should use the book that I will be using next year in class (Essentials) or work/learn concepts outta another book so that I'm not bored and already know the answers next year?
Btw can this be applied to Chem aswell?

I would actually disagree with this approach. It means that you're bored in class, and your not learning from your teacher. Better to build up your knowledge gradually throughout the year, rather than try to cram everything into 2 months.

no this approach definitely has benefits, if you are passionate about maths and treat it as an art you would be able to study beyond year 12 material, that way you won't be bored and also you can listen in class to see what type of approaches your teacher provides.

[theuncle]

I see maths as more of a tool than an art

[tram]

I see maths as more of a tool than an art

would have to say i agree, not much of a pure mathematian myself, i prefer the applied stuff

[luken93]

no this approach definitely has benefits, if you are passionate about maths and treat it as an art you would be able to study beyond year 12 material

As much as I enjoy getting the answer to equations, and learning about the new concepts, I'm not sure that I'm capable of doing beyond year 12 material, nor would my teachers support me alot, although it was my methods teacher that gave me the year 12 book to begin working through concurrently.

also you can listen in class to see what type of approaches your teacher provides.

This is more the reason that I'm doing it, I find that if I learn it myself, that I will remember it, and the reinforcement by the teacher will only expand on what I know, and simplify/have a different method of doing it.

I think I will have to get the/watchman in on this topic, he is like the modern day TT haha

[Martoman]

Maths is amazing. You cannot say you were not spellbound when first discovering fractals or the application of fibbonnaci in nature. Come on you applied math tools.

[luken93]

Maths is amazing. You cannot say you were not spellbound when first discovering fractals or the application of fibbonnaci in nature. Come on you applied math tools.

haha ok I admit, I do love learning new things, but I don't know if I'm much of an applied maths type.
To sum it up, I just wanna do well, and to exhaust every possible chance of getting the upper hand

[98.40_for_sure]

You know what's really cool? That show on SBS 'letters and numbers'. You can't ever beat the contestants

[Mao]

Maths is amazing. You cannot say you were not spellbound when first discovering fractals or the application of fibbonnaci in nature. Come on you applied math tools.

Hey, applied maths is awesome k? It allows lazy people like me to do smart stuff despite not being very smart and not being very diligent: every problem can either be solved by a computer, or approximated by a computer. It is the brutality of silicon that's driving everything forward these days.

[TrueTears]

Maths is amazing. You cannot say you were not spellbound when first discovering fractals or the application of fibbonnaci in nature. Come on you applied math tools.

every problem can either be solved by a computer, or approximated by a computer.

Fermat's Last Theorem and Riemann Hypothesis please! loljk

Even the applied mathematics has beautiful theorems. The every day integrals and differentiation you use, where do you think all that comes from? That's right, the fundamental theorem of calculus, one of the most profound discoveries of mathematics, you might think differentiation and integration are brothers but that's because you have been taught that in highschool without any secondary thought of questioning it, who ever said (informally) "integration is the opposite of differentiation"? In fact, there was NO connection b/w differential mathematics and integral mathematics before the discovery of the FTC which connected these 2 branches of mathematics. You might be able to apply it but appreciate the predecessors who proved that for you to use. Without the pureness of mathematics, there would be no applications. Pure mathematicians are provers, applied mathematicians are users. However a true mathematician should appreciate both sides of its nature, what's the point of proving it if you're not going to use it in the present or the future? What's the point of using it if you don't even know what it means?

But anyways, back to luken's question, what I meant by studying beyond 12 is not just studying whatever you like (ofcourse that's good if you can it'd make you much more confident when tackling problems) but you could read more about topic you are studying in year 12. For example if you are doing integrals, maybe read the integrals chapter in Stewarts, that way, you will feel much more confident when doing year 12 questions, you will think it's childplay. There are countless other examples.

[TrueTears]

I see maths as more of a tool than an art

would have to say i agree, not much of a pure mathematian myself, i prefer the applied stuff

lol but if you love integers like your sig says, shouldn't you love number theory? After all it is the study of integers and one of the oldest/purest branches of mathematics.

[luken93]

But anyways, even the applied mathematics has beautiful theorems. The every day integrals and differentiation you use, where do you think all that comes from? That's right, the fundamental theorem of calculus, one of the most profound discoveries of mathematics, you might think differentiation and integration are brothers but that's because you have been taught that in highschool without any secondary thought of questioning it, who ever said (informally) "integration is the opposite of differentiation"? In fact, there was NO connection b/w differential mathematics and integral mathematics before the discovery of the FTC which connected these 2 branches of mathematics. You might be able to apply it but appreciate the predecessors who proved that for you to use. Without the pureness of mathematics, there would be no applications. Pure mathematicians are provers, applied mathematicians are users. However a true mathematician should appreciate both sides of its nature, what's the point of proving it if you're not going to use it in the present or the future? What's the point of using it if you don't even know what it means?

Spoken like a true mathematician haha

But anyways, back to luken's question, what I meant by studying beyond 12 is not just studying whatever you like (ofcourse that's good if you can it'd make you much more confident when tackling problems) but you could read more about topic you are studying in year 12. For example if you are doing integrals, maybe read the integrals chapter in Stewarts, that way, you will feel much more confident when doing year 12 questions, you will think it's childplay. There are countless other examples.

That sounds more like what I want. This may sound dumb but ummm, which book is Stewarts?

[TrueTears]

Stewarts Calculus, one of the most famous calculus texts out there. Read it when you get the chance.

[Martoman]

You know what's really cool? That show on SBS 'letters and numbers'. You can't ever beat the contestants

uhh I can usually get there in time, although some of the solutions are just......... wtf.

[tram]

I see maths as more of a tool than an art

would have to say i agree, not much of a pure mathematian myself, i prefer the applied stuff

lol but if you love integers like your sig says, shouldn't you love number theory? After all it is the study of integers and one of the oldest/purest branches of mathematics.

LOL......ummmm i'll pm you with the story behind the sig, but rest assured NO i am not a fan of number theory *shudders*..... at all......

*runs away to where tt can't find him and kill him for hating number theory*