Question about 2011

[burbs]

I may be doing Psych next year, and have heard there will be a change in the study design that will remove the multiple choice component.

Firstly - is this true?
Secondly - Does it matter?

[matt123]

I may be doing Psych next year, and have heard there will be a change in the study design that will remove the multiple choice component.

Firstly - is this true?
Secondly - Does it matter?

Lol i HIGHLY doubt they will "remove" the multi choice.
I dont even think they can do that

they are just making some small additions/removals to the course
nothing to stress bout

[Slumdawg]

I have heard this too, so it is a possibility.

I've also heard that they are reducing the MC section and making the short answer longer.

And the short answer apparently will have mini essay type questions..

Guess you'll have to wait till the sample comes out early next year to see.

I think all the changes are to make psychology harder because they don't like the fact it's kinda turned into a rote learned subject.

Then again these changes will make it harder for everyone not just you so I wouldn't worry too much. Everything is moderated. And being the first year of a new study design the exam is likely to have no weird questions..

[matt123]

I have heard this too, so it is a possibility.

I've also heard that they are reducing the MC section and making the short answer longer.

And the short answer apparently will have mini essay type questions..

Guess you'll have to wait till the sample comes out early next year to see.

I think all the changes are to make psychology harder because they don't like the fact it's kinda turned into a rote learned subject.

Then again these changes will make it harder for everyone not just you so I wouldn't worry too much. Everything is moderated. And being the first year of a new study design the exam is likely to have no weird questions..

yeah thats possible , for sure
and would make sence if they did that acutally

as for the "werid questions" .. yeh its good to be in the first year.
i mean it does have its negatives aswell ( not many exams/resources)
but doing psych this year means that they have run out of questions and can just put in all these random challenging weirdo crap questions haha.

[Slumdawg]

I have heard this too, so it is a possibility.

I've also heard that they are reducing the MC section and making the short answer longer.

And the short answer apparently will have mini essay type questions..

Guess you'll have to wait till the sample comes out early next year to see.

I think all the changes are to make psychology harder because they don't like the fact it's kinda turned into a rote learned subject.

Then again these changes will make it harder for everyone not just you so I wouldn't worry too much. Everything is moderated. And being the first year of a new study design the exam is likely to have no weird questions..

yeah thats possible , for sure
and would make sence if they did that acutally

as for the "werid questions" .. yeh its good to be in the first year.
i mean it does have its negatives aswell ( not many exams/resources)
but doing psych this year means that they have run out of questions and can just put in all these random challenging weirdo crap questions haha.

Well I was thinking the mid year would be all the stuff from past vcaa exams. But god was I wrong. There was so much stuff in there that had never been tested before (sensation&perception had like 3 MC questions, dark adaptation, hypnogogic state, + quite a few other things). At the psych lecture the guy said that apparently all but one of the exam writers for psych quit something. That's probably why our mid year exam was so different, it was basically a whole new lot of people writing the exam. So our end of year will probably be different too. Makes me wonder though.. What are the little parts of the course that probably aren't well known cos that's what these exam writers seem to be targeting.

[matt123]

I have heard this too, so it is a possibility.

I've also heard that they are reducing the MC section and making the short answer longer.

And the short answer apparently will have mini essay type questions..

Guess you'll have to wait till the sample comes out early next year to see.

I think all the changes are to make psychology harder because they don't like the fact it's kinda turned into a rote learned subject.

Then again these changes will make it harder for everyone not just you so I wouldn't worry too much. Everything is moderated. And being the first year of a new study design the exam is likely to have no weird questions..

yeah thats possible , for sure
and would make sence if they did that acutally

as for the "werid questions" .. yeh its good to be in the first year.
i mean it does have its negatives aswell ( not many exams/resources)
but doing psych this year means that they have run out of questions and can just put in all these random challenging weirdo crap questions haha.

Well I was thinking the mid year would be all the stuff from past vcaa exams. But god was I wrong. There was so much stuff in there that had never been tested before (sensation&perception had like 3 MC questions, dark adaptation, hypnogogic state, + quite a few other things). At the psych lecture the guy said that apparently all but one of the exam writers for psych quit something. That's probably why our mid year exam was so different, it was basically a whole new lot of people writing the exam. So our end of year will probably be different too. Makes me wonder though.. What are the little parts of the course that probably aren't well known cos that's what these exam writers seem to be targeting.

partial reinforcement.
know them

i can GUARANTEE you .. it will be on the vcaa one
lol .. not just the names of them etc .. thats always on there

i mean ... what they do ... the rate at which they bring upon a response ..and the difficulty of extinction . or how difficult it is to extinguish a response with this particular partial reinforcement..

to be honest . i dont know them well enough my self and they always seem to trick me.
however .. i bet you .. it will be on the exam.
vcaa is going to want to make this exam super hard ( and im sure they did) ...
im sure there are many "random" questions.

[Slumdawg]

I have heard this too, so it is a possibility.

I've also heard that they are reducing the MC section and making the short answer longer.

And the short answer apparently will have mini essay type questions..

Guess you'll have to wait till the sample comes out early next year to see.

I think all the changes are to make psychology harder because they don't like the fact it's kinda turned into a rote learned subject.

Then again these changes will make it harder for everyone not just you so I wouldn't worry too much. Everything is moderated. And being the first year of a new study design the exam is likely to have no weird questions..

yeah thats possible , for sure
and would make sence if they did that acutally

as for the "werid questions" .. yeh its good to be in the first year.
i mean it does have its negatives aswell ( not many exams/resources)
but doing psych this year means that they have run out of questions and can just put in all these random challenging weirdo crap questions haha.

Well I was thinking the mid year would be all the stuff from past vcaa exams. But god was I wrong. There was so much stuff in there that had never been tested before (sensation&perception had like 3 MC questions, dark adaptation, hypnogogic state, + quite a few other things). At the psych lecture the guy said that apparently all but one of the exam writers for psych quit something. That's probably why our mid year exam was so different, it was basically a whole new lot of people writing the exam. So our end of year will probably be different too. Makes me wonder though.. What are the little parts of the course that probably aren't well known cos that's what these exam writers seem to be targeting.

partial reinforcement.
know them

i can GUARANTEE you .. it will be on the vcaa one
lol .. not just the names of them etc .. thats always on there

i mean ... what they do ... the rate at which they bring upon a response ..and the difficulty of extinction . or how difficult it is to extinguish a response with this particular partial reinforcement..

to be honest . i dont know them well enough my self and they always seem to trick me.
however .. i bet you .. it will be on the exam.
vcaa is going to want to make this exam super hard ( and im sure they did) ...
im sure there are many "random" questions.

hahaha. Yer they LOVE schedules of reinforcement. I've yet to see an exam without it. However they're always in MC... So they'll probably put it in SA just to be annoying.

It's annoying cos every book has conflicting info on the schedules. I'm just sticking to what the assessor's reports say. But I get what you mean. They are really tricky to get right all the time.

I can picture this exam being just as difficult if not more difficult than the mid year. Bloody new exam writers. Why couldn't we have the old ones. Their exams are so much easier.

[matt123]

yeah true man.
true true.
it would suck if they put a question on partial reinforcements in the SA


anyways
in regards to this post and the new course

i doubt it will be MUCH different.
but surely ... there may be some hectic changes .. if that's not too contradictory.

[iNerd]

MCQ won't be removed and if it is removed, yeah it does matter. That's 45 marks there where the answer is looking at you in the face...free marks given you've done the work.
As for the SA being longer and more essay type I have a feeling that the "bigger-mark" questions will be in your Unit 4 specified detailed study whether that is gambling, major depression or schizophrenia.
This is just my opinion but either way being in the 1st year makes it hard for everyone so there's no need to stress.

[Slumdawg]

MCQ won't be removed and if it is removed, yeah it does matter. That's 45 marks there where the answer is looking at you in the face...free marks given you've done the work.
As for the SA being longer and more essay type I have a feeling that the "bigger-mark" questions will be in your Unit 4 specified detailed study whether that is gambling, major depression or schizophrenia.
This is just my opinion but either way being in the 1st year makes it hard for everyone so there's no need to stress.

MC are certainly not free marks. There are always some questions that can trip you up. Trust me when you do practice exams next year you'll see MC aren't that easy. You can definitely get better until you get none wrong but I mean there will always be one question that you've never encountered before and have to use your best guess. Don't look at MC too simplistically cos they could easily be your downfall.

[matt123]

MCQ won't be removed and if it is removed, yeah it does matter. That's 45 marks there where the answer is looking at you in the face...free marks given you've done the work.
As for the SA being longer and more essay type I have a feeling that the "bigger-mark" questions will be in your Unit 4 specified detailed study whether that is gambling, major depression or schizophrenia.
This is just my opinion but either way being in the 1st year makes it hard for everyone so there's no need to stress.

MC are certainly not free marks. There are always some questions that can trip you up. Trust me when you do practice exams next year you'll see MC aren't that easy. You can definitely get better until you get none wrong but I mean there will always be one question that you've never encountered before and have to use your best guess. Don't look at MC too simplistically cos they could easily be your downfall.

major agree with you.
" there will always be one question that you've never encountered before and have to use your best guess".

actually couldn't agree more. even after all the prac exams ive done so far. this seems to always happen , where there are 1-2 MC that take more of an educated guess ......

The SA usually straight forward with repeated questions.
and whilst SA pretty much determines your mark ... i believe many of the multi choice also aid in differentiating between the A and the A+ student.

[iNerd]

Technically speaking though the answer is right in-front of your face; you just have to be able to recognise it.
With SA it is all dependent on your phrasing of the answer and the inclusion of specific key terms as I seem to recall "vexx" lost 3marks for writing mental instead of visual or something like that.
Of course MCQ is not "FREE" marks, I merely meant that with proper study and practice MCQ are the easier, give-away marks.

[jinny1]

ewwww mini essay questions??

[Visionz]

Gloamglozer is your man for next years course. I dont gaf about VCE as of november 11 so I have no idea what next year will be like.