the psychology prac exam discussion thread

[sillysmile]

but, I agree with your answer the second question.

[sillysmile]

okay, so this question was from the lisachem 2008 prac exam, what do you think the answer is?

Question 13
You arrive at K-Mart, when you realise that you have left your shopping list at home. In terms of the serial position effect, the items on the list that you are most likely to recall are:
A.
at the beginning of the list.
B.
in the middle of the list.
C.
at the end of the list.
D.
both A and C.

D

is it D for both? i reckon it is.
also what brand of prac exam is best?

Read up at my "edited" post

best exams = vcaa obviously
then insight ...
then ... neap
then ... ummm ... tssm
then qat
then ... lisachem

lisachem are sht . they dont explain multi choice answers and are a waste of time.

thanks. what about IARTV. Also what exam do you reckon to leave til last. VCAA 09 or Insight 10

those are probably handy, maybe leave both for the last 2, with the vcaa as your last.

[studying_hard]

okay, so this question was from the lisachem 2008 prac exam, what do you think the answer is?

Question 13
You arrive at K-Mart, when you realise that you have left your shopping list at home. In terms of the serial position effect, the items on the list that you are most likely to recall are:
A.
at the beginning of the list.
B.
in the middle of the list.
C.
at the end of the list.
D.
both A and C.

D

is it D for both? i reckon it is.
also what brand of prac exam is best?

Read up at my "edited" post

best exams = vcaa obviously
then insight ...
then ... neap
then ... ummm ... tssm
then qat
then ... lisachem

lisachem are sht . they dont explain multi choice answers and are a waste of time.

thanks. what about IARTV. Also what exam do you reckon to leave til last. VCAA 09 or Insight 10

those are probably handy, maybe leave both for the last 2, with the vcaa as your last.

thanks

[matt123]

okay, so this question was from the lisachem 2008 prac exam, what do you think the answer is?

Question 13
You arrive at K-Mart, when you realise that you have left your shopping list at home. In terms of the serial position effect, the items on the list that you are most likely to recall are:
A.
at the beginning of the list.
B.
in the middle of the list.
C.
at the end of the list.
D.
both A and C.

D

is it D for both? i reckon it is.
also what brand of prac exam is best?

Read up at my "edited" post

best exams = vcaa obviously
then insight ...
then ... neap
then ... ummm ... tssm
then qat
then ... lisachem

lisachem are sht . they dont explain multi choice answers and are a waste of time.

thanks. what about IARTV. Also what exam do you reckon to leave til last. VCAA 09 or Insight 10

Vcaa 09 .. i would personally do it on the weekend ... and then . if you get anything wrong . spend the next week learning the FARK out of what u got wrong


edit : irtv isnt that bad either.
just avoid lisachem untill thats all u got left

[matt123]

okay, so this question was from the lisachem 2008 prac exam, what do you think the answer is?

Question 13
You arrive at K-Mart, when you realise that you have left your shopping list at home. In terms of the serial position effect, the items on the list that you are most likely to recall are:
A.
at the beginning of the list.
B.
in the middle of the list.
C.
at the end of the list.
D.
both A and C.

D

EDIT : let me explain.

whenever it says " IN TERMS OF THE SERIAL POSITION EFFECT"
you can ASSUME that its talking about both primary and recency effect.

you have to go against all logic . and just do what the question "wants" you to do.

I have seen questions like these many times.
they are just stupid
so dont worry bout them.

as for ur second question
the answer should be D.
they all involve retrieving information IN SOME WAY from long term memory ....

hope that helps

but in regards to the first question, a time longer than stm's duration has passed(getting to kmart would take more than 18-20 or even 30 seconds), so the recency effect should not be present.
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dooood
thats what im trying to tell you..

when you get questions that state
" IN TERMS OF THE SERIAL POSITION EFFECT"

you have to straight away .. ignore logic ... and go with what they "want" you to say.
if they say

what do you think would have happened?
then u can tick the option that only had primacy effect.

however .. when they tell u . use the serial position effect .. u gotta give em a dumb illogical answer.

sorry man .. thats just how this silly course rolls

p.s
ud never get a question as shocking as that .. or even CLOSE to being as bad as that on vcaa

[studying_hard]

yeh i dont like lisachem that mcuh either. the exam format is different and has pictures and stuff on it. questions arnt grat either. I like the ones like VCAA,insight or TSSM that have explanations. Otherwise on the mc I get wrong, I sit their thinikng am I wrong or is the exam wrong.Confuses me lol

[Spreadbury]

matt123, they want you to give the correct answer. you know why they give you the details about K-mart? because they want a specific answer about why or why not the recency effect would or would not occur. otherwise, all questions would simply be "say what you know about the serial position effect" in psychology all the questions that involve such a scenario usually have a specific aspect about the theory that needs to be considered.

assuming you know the reasoning behind the serial position effect, you would know that the reason items at the end of the list are recalled best are because they are still in STM. unless you live in the bloody K-mart the items at the end of the list would not be in your STM.

do not just blab what you know about the question, it will not always pay off, least of all in specific scenario's. always read the question, and always apply your knowledge to the specific question at hand.

[sillysmile]

yeh i dont like lisachem that mcuh either. the exam format is different and has pictures and stuff on it. questions arnt grat either. I like the ones like VCAA,insight or TSSM that have explanations. Otherwise on the mc I get wrong, I sit their thinikng am I wrong or is the exam wrong.Confuses me lol

yeah a lot of the time it's the exam that's wrong... I'm starting to wonder if they do it for some purposeful reason.
it's a conspiracy created by other students who want you to be confused! 
nah jks.

[matt123]

matt123, they want you to give the correct answer. you know why they give you the details about K-mart? because they want a specific answer about why or why not the recency effect would or would not occur. otherwise, all questions would simply be "say what you know about the serial position effect" in psychology all the questions that involve such a scenario usually have a specific aspect about the theory that needs to be considered.

assuming you know the reasoning behind the serial position effect, you would know that the reason items at the end of the list are recalled best are because they are still in STM. unless you live in the bloody K-mart the items at the end of the list would not be in your STM.

do not just blab what you know about the question, it will not always pay off, least of all in specific scenario's. always read the question, and always apply your knowledge to the specific question at hand.

This is right and true and I dont disagree with you.
its very important to show "knowledge" of what they are asking.

However ...I have noticed with alot of these crappy papers , lisachem etc etc .. they always ask dumb questions and dont test your "knowledge" , rather they test a specific concept , such as the "serial position effect".... they are stupid questions , I know ....

 I have seen ONLY one similar question on a vcaa paper... ( 2006/or 05 i believe) .. where you didn't apply "knowledge" , you had to just go with the flow and put down " at the beginning and at the end of the list" WHEN infact , the answer should have been "primacy effect" and only at the start of the list.
but they took both answers ...

The fact is , and you are 100% right.
always go with "knowledge" over , the question.

[studying_hard]

accoding to TSSM 2007 it is Varible Ratio not Variable Interval