Any Chance of getting a 30 in Chem without Unit 1/2 ?

[34590]

I'm doing Unit 2 now but my teacher is constantly away on "Camp" leaving us clear as mud about most of the stuff!

So is it impossible to do well next year? Even if I work my ass off?       

[MBBS]

Getting a 30 means being in the top %50 in the state. If you work hard, of course it is.

[nbalakers24]

theres a few people that havent done 1/2 and get high scores .

its manageable, learn some of the coursework yourself, if you have trouble, search tutors in the board and get ahead in the summer holidays so you're ready once the school year starts.

[sillysmile]

it's definitely harder to do it this way.

[98.40_for_sure]

A lot of the stuff learnt in unit 1/2 doesn't come up in 3/4. The only thing that i can think of is galvanic cells and how to use the e-series. Some formulas like pv=nrt, and conversion of units.

[Russ]

I did pretty badly in 1/2 chem and did well in 3/4 (something clicked about the content + teacher was better)

The 1/2 content is more just assumed knowledge, you'll have to revise things like stoich etc. to deal with the 3/4 content

[HERculina]

i forget... wat does getting over 40 mean. is it top 0.08% or 0.8% or 8% of the state? or am i no where near the right percentage?

[iNerd]

i forget... wat does getting over 40 mean. is it top 0.08% or 0.8% or 8% of the state? or am i no where near the right percentage?

40 - top 8%
45 - top 2%

[Hutchoo]

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/faqs/vcecurrentstudents.html

Read up on VCAA etc 

2% of students will get a score on or above 45
9% of students will get a score on or above 40
26% of students will get a score on or above 35
53% of students will get a score on or above 30
78% of students will get a score on or above 25
93% of students will get a score on or above 20.

[HERculina]

ohhhh, hmm...i guess that's ok.
NO WAIT THATS HARD AS!
aiyaiyaiyai

[masonnnn]

unit 1+2 our school had two classes. Our class had an incompetent teacher and because we were simply unable to learn properly all but about 4 of our class dropped it this year.
first few weeks of 3/4 got a proper understanding of pretty much the entirety of units 1+2 thanks to a good teacher. the beginning is very similar so it's easy to aslong as the teacher is good and you put work in.
went from no understanding last year to above average this year. a proper 1+2 grounding would definitely be helpful but it's not too hard without it

[slothpomba]

Probably wont be the easiest thing you've ever done but i think it can be done

However some of the 1/2 Stuff doesnt even show up in 3/4 (like metals) so you're not missing out entirely. They should do a revision thing at the start of unit 3 for a couple weeks but its not really meant for learning from scratch...so in that regard it wont be that bad...

I think it should be fine

[happyhappyland]

get a tutor and learn all the relevant 1/2 stuff for 3/4 during summer holidays thats what i did

[Greggler]

it would be quite hard. 3/4 essentially builds on 1/2 as much as methods 3/4 builds on 1/2.

Your knowledge of stoich, acid bases, redox reactions all that jazz is heavily featured in 3/4. Really theres only two new things in unit 3 (spectroscopy ajnd biochemistry) and in unit 4 although it is mostly new, it is again, heavily calculation focused. However, if you work hard in unit 3, unit 4 is a lot easier.

Having said that, i completley disregarded chem last year, basically crammed the night before tests and im doing realtively fine so far this year. So a 30 would definately be achievable one would think; you'd just have to work extremely hard at the start of year to ensure that stoich calculations become almost second nature. Because if you get that down pact, thats basically 80% of exam questions nailed.

[taiga]

you will be fine, you just need to grasp onto the concepts quickly and you should be okay