A high GPA

[binders]

yeah. the beginner's levels (1st year) concentrate on grammar, etc, which is a finite set of rules you can master. when the assessment is expression then it's harder. i found latin composition really hard.
i averaged 95 for the 4 units i did before semester 2, 3 beginner's and an intermediate, so it's doable. pity they weren't third year subjects

[vexx]

yeah. the beginner's levels (1st year) concentrate on grammar, etc, which is a finite set of rules you can master. when the assessment is expression then it's harder. i found latin composition really hard.
i averaged 95 for the 4 units i did before semester 2, 3 beginner's and an intermediate, so it's doable. pity they weren't third year subjects

oh wow that's amazing, well done ^^
were you actually allowed to do beginners latin considering you already had a 33?
btw, when did you start having to compose then? in first years?

[binders]

a little composition in 1st year, more in 2nd year. usually 3 sentences per week, so still not much compared to a modern language. mind you, those three could give you a lot of trouble.
as for doing beginner's, i had done vce latin in 2007 and hadn't even looked at any latin since then.
the intermediate was going to be too much if i didn't refresh my latin. the moral of the story is use it or lose it.

[vexx]

a little composition in 1st year, more in 2nd year. usually 3 sentences per week, so still not much compared to a modern language. mind you, those three could give you a lot of trouble.
as for doing beginner's, i had done vce latin in 2007 and hadn't even looked at any latin since then.
the intermediate was going to be too much if i didn't refresh my latin. the moral of the story is use it or lose it.

Yep that's true, regardless 95% average is awesome! :p
Cheers for the info, may want to do it next year

[binders]

go for it! since you reckon latin's so easy, it should be a doddle for you 

[mikee65]

go for it! since you reckon latin's so easy, it should be a doddle for you 

Obviously you cant do latin if your doing a science degree?

[vexx]

go for it! since you reckon latin's so easy, it should be a doddle for you 

Obviously you cant do latin if your doing a science degree?

What do you mean?
You can do Latin as breadth in any degree

[mikee65]

go for it! since you reckon latin's so easy, it should be a doddle for you 

Obviously you cant do latin if your doing a science degree?

What do you mean?
You can do Latin as breadth in any degree

mm how many breadth subjects do we do a year? are they compulsory and become inclusive of the 8 subject limit?

[Russ]

You have to do 300 points over 3 years (100 points = 8 subjects) but how you organise it is up to you.

In general you do 3 subjects for your course and 1 breadth per semester, but you can mix it up (2 and 2, 4 and 0 etc)

Breadth rules just changed, you MUST do a minimum of 4 over your degree, of which a maximum of 3 can be first year level. You can then decide whether or not you want to do another 2 breadth or do 2 selective subjects for your degree instead.

[mikee65]

You have to do 300 points over 3 years (100 points = 8 subjects) but how you organise it is up to you.

In general you do 3 subjects for your course and 1 breadth per semester, but you can mix it up (2 and 2, 4 and 0 etc)

Breadth rules just changed, you MUST do a minimum of 4 over your degree, of which a maximum of 3 can be first year level. You can then decide whether or not you want to do another 2 breadth or do 2 selective subjects for your degree instead.

ah, thanks Russ. Have you done the gamsat yet? Im wondering if I need to do all of chem and bio maybe even physics bc of S3 of the gamsat however im worried it will drag down my gpa doing chem seems hard.

[Russ]

If you didn't do physics at high school, you need to do it. You could probably scrape by without doing uni biology if you have high school biology. You must do uni chem, high school chemistry won't cut it.

If you don't do bio/chem at uni, you can't get into UoM MD

Go look at the thread in the UMAT subforum on the GAMSAT

[vexx]

If you didn't do physics at high school, you need to do it. You could probably scrape by without doing uni biology if you have high school biology. You must do uni chem, high school chemistry won't cut it.

If you don't do bio/chem at uni, you can't get into UoM MD

Go look at the thread in the UMAT subforum on the GAMSAT

Yes you definitely need to do science/biomed at melbourne doing biology/chemistry subjects in order to do MD at melbourne, but not other degrees.
You can self-learn the physics part since its only up to high school level, use Khan Academy (online free videos) if you like as they are apparently very good.. Anyway you choose, since uni will only go further into the course than needed. Check the GAMSAT prep materials if you need to be sure what you have to know

[stonecold]

Would like to know know the following please

-Is it easier to obtain a higher GPA in science or biomed, or are they the same?  (also consider I may need a high GPA just to transfer from this degree to a med degree after first year )
-Do breadth subjects count towards your GPA at UoM?
-At Monash Uni, if you do science or biomed science, are you forced to take elective subjects like UoM breadth, and if so do these count towards your GPA?
-Finally, don't think this matters, but is it easier to get a high GPA at UoM or Monash?

[vexx]

Would like to know know the following please

-Is it easier to obtain a higher GPA in science or biomed, or are they the same?  (also consider I may need a high GPA just to transfer from this degree to a med degree after first year )
-Do breadth subjects count towards your GPA at UoM?
-At Monash Uni, if you do science or biomed science, are you forced to take elective subjects like UoM breadth, and if so do these count towards your GPA?
-Finally, don't think this matters, but is it easier to get a high GPA at UoM or Monash?

It's really up to you if biomedicine or science will give you a higher GPA. Probably science because you can choose ALL your subjects and not take ones you may feel you wont get a good GPA (especially first year with calculus and such) otherwise if you do the same subjects you will be fine.
Also, there are subjects in biomedicine that count 2 subjects as 1 so your grade for this subject counts like two subjects, which can be good or bad.
and biomedicine/science between Monash and Melb is no difference in GPA, just the subjects are different is all - so depends on your interests/strengths.
Monash you don't have to do breadth subjects like Melbourne does, you can do all science subjects if you wish.

Annnnd, GPA does include all subjects including breadth when applying for med.

[stonecold]

Would like to know know the following please

-Is it easier to obtain a higher GPA in science or biomed, or are they the same?  (also consider I may need a high GPA just to transfer from this degree to a med degree after first year )
-Do breadth subjects count towards your GPA at UoM?
-At Monash Uni, if you do science or biomed science, are you forced to take elective subjects like UoM breadth, and if so do these count towards your GPA?
-Finally, don't think this matters, but is it easier to get a high GPA at UoM or Monash?

It's really up to you if biomedicine or science will give you a higher GPA. Probably science because you can choose ALL your subjects and not take ones you may feel you wont get a good GPA (especially first year with calculus and such) otherwise if you do the same subjects you will be fine.
Also, there are subjects in biomedicine that count 2 subjects as 1 so your grade for this subject counts like two subjects, which can be good or bad.
and biomedicine/science between Monash and Melb is no difference in GPA, just the subjects are different is all - so depends on your interests/strengths.
Monash you don't have to do breadth subjects like Melbourne does, you can do all science subjects if you wish.

Annnnd, GPA does include all subjects including breadth when applying for med.

Thanks.  That throws a spanner in the works.  May have to consider Monash then, because as interesting as some of the Breadth subjects look, I am dead set on doing med and the last thing I need is for them to screw up my chances of getting into it.

Strategically, science at Monash may just be the best option.  Somewhat lackluster though.  :S