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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 10:13:54 pm »
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repeat and get a 50 you seem very capable

Just be careful not to underestimate the amount of work it takes to get a 50, or over 40, in any subject, Psych of Revs, though. :)

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 10:16:06 pm »
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I've seen far too many cases of people repeating subjects to gain no significant difference, and it really breaks people to know they've wasted a lot of time and effort on a subject. Also, in terms of maximising your ATAR score, it's more likely that you'll get a higher aggregate by doing revs and thus having 6 subjects, than gaining a much higher pysch score and for it to only be in your bottom 2. i.e. you could gain a 3.0 for Revs, or you might only increase your aggregate 0.4 if you improve your Pysch from 34 to 38.

P.S...'ATAR' doesn't want you to do Pysch because he thinks you're competition for him. :P

People have warned me of that; but here's the thing. My marks at the start of year were pretty terrible. My situation at home wasn't that great at that time. But when I moved schools and houses, everything improved and so did my marks. I never took it seriously until after the mid year exam.

But if I was to get a 40 or above for Psych (I worked this out on the ATAR calc), I end up with a higher ATAR than I would if I just got a 30 in Revs (along with my 34 in Psych from last year). If that makes any sense? :P

PS. Haha! :P

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 10:16:48 pm »
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Lol no offense but your making Psych seem like a breeze.

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Personally I'd go with Uni Psych, it seems like a great course (PM minilunchbox about it!)

PS. I'm almost tempted you take Psych so I can have a friendly comp with you, but IMO your better off with Uni Psych especially considering that's the field you want to enter.

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 10:17:35 pm »
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I've seen far too many cases of people repeating subjects to gain no significant difference, and it really breaks people to know they've wasted a lot of time and effort on a subject. Also, in terms of maximising your ATAR score, it's more likely that you'll get a higher aggregate by doing revs and thus having 6 subjects, than gaining a much higher pysch score and for it to only be in your bottom 2. i.e. you could gain a 3.0 for Revs, or you might only increase your aggregate 0.4 if you improve your Pysch from 34 to 38.

P.S...'ATAR' doesn't want you to do Pysch because he thinks you're competition for him. :P

People have warned me of that; but here's the thing. My marks at the start of year were pretty terrible. My situation at home wasn't that great at that time. But when I moved schools and houses, everything improved and so did my marks. I never took it seriously until after the mid year exam.

But if I was to get a 40 or above for Psych (I worked this out on the ATAR calc), I end up with a higher ATAR than I would if I just got a 30 in Revs (along with my 34 in Psych from last year). If that makes any sense? :P

PS. Haha! :P

Oh another thing. You said you want to do Psych at Uni right? Does the 34 you got this year make the prereq?
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Re: Subject selection regrets: HELP!
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 10:19:13 pm »
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I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 10:19:53 pm »
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I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.
I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 10:23:00 pm »
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There's quite a big gap between an SS of mid-thirties and an SS of 40+ in any subject, and to improve your SS you'd be spending a lot of time on it - so it won't be an easier option by any means, I don't think.

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 10:23:29 pm »
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I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.
I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 10:24:46 pm »
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Lol no offense but your making Psych seem like a breeze.

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Personally I'd go with Uni Psych, it seems like a great course (PM minilunchbox about it!)

PS. I'm almost tempted you take Psych so I can have a friendly comp with you, but IMO your better off with Uni Psych especially considering that's the field you want to enter.

I know Psych is definitely not a breeze, I did do it last year :P
But it will be much easier for me as I'm familiar with a lot of the course work, and I know exactly how to study it now. I've also discussed the new study design with my teacher; he said I shouldn't worry too much about it.

I can't do the Uni thing anymore, if you read my other post I couldn't find universities that have it available in my area and it was way competitive to get into.

The exact degree I want to do is combined Psych/Business admin, where around the lowest and highest scores I need is about 81-85... so yeah!

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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 10:25:57 pm »
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I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.
I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.
I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 10:26:29 pm »
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There's quite a big gap between an SS of mid-thirties and an SS of 40+ in any subject, and to improve your SS you'd be spending a lot of time on it - so it won't be an easier option by any means, I don't think.

Yeah, I just don't believe I would have as much motivation to study hard at Revs as I would at Psych. I seriously will not get bored with the work, I studied it so hard last year and didn't then. I think I'd be more impressed at myself for what I can remember :P

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 10:27:12 pm »
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There's quite a big gap between an SS of mid-thirties and an SS of 40+ in any subject, and to improve your SS you'd be spending a lot of time on it - so it won't be an easier option by any means, I don't think.

Yeah, I just don't believe I would have as much motivation to study hard at Revs as I would at Psych. I seriously will not get bored with the work, I studied it so hard last year and didn't then. I think I'd be more impressed at myself for what I can remember :P
Take Psych then, but seriously you run the risk of skimming over coursework because "I've done it before"...and wouldn't you have done all Unit 3 practice exams? Hahaha you'll run out :P

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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 10:27:49 pm »
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I think Cayteelin makes it seem like a breezes because he/she is so passionate about it.

I think ultimately, if the decision becomes too difficult, go with what you love which is obviously Pysch. The ATAR score difference will depend on how you go in other subjects as well. If you think that Psych will be in your top 4 and revs won't be, obviously the extra study scores you gain in psych will have a greater impact on your ATAR. Honestly, it's often too hard to be expecting what will be in your top 4, but yes, it's possible that repeating psych will increase your ATAR.
I will repeat though, doing what you love is important and will help you to do well. That might be the deciding factor for you. Don't waste your education on things you don't find useful or interesting to you.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 10:29:09 pm »
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I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.
I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.
I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 10:30:12 pm »
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I think Cayteelin makes it seem like a breezes because he/she is so passionate about it.

I think ultimately, if the decision becomes too difficult, go with what you love which is obviously Pysch. The ATAR score difference will depend on how you go in other subjects as well. If you think that Psych will be in your top 4 and revs won't be, obviously the extra study scores you gain in psych will have a greater impact on your ATAR. Honestly, it's often too hard to be expecting what will be in your top 4, but yes, it's possible that repeating psych will increase your ATAR.
I will repeat though, doing what you love is important and will help you to do well. That might be the deciding factor for you. Don't waste your education on things you don't find useful or interesting to you.
I predict methods will be in your top 4 though I could be wrong ;)
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