Taekwondo

[Whatlol]

Oh snap... better not mess with you then huh  :angel: lol

I hate patterns too though you need em to advance to the next belt?

Fine... I'll be the guinea pig    but depends on the time it's on

Yea you do need to do patterns to advance,

Although i dont really plan on doing any more gradings to be honest.

Ill probably try taekwondo 2nd or third week once i get used to my timetable etc.

No martial art is that useful IRL. Might as well do one you enjoy.

Yea not so sure about that ( taekwondo definitely isn't effective, but some others can be i suppose), but i agree with doing it for enjoyment

[berryy]

looks interesting
i might join!

Have you done taekwondo before?

yes

[Whatlol]

looks interesting
i might join!

Have you done taekwondo before?

yes

Awesome!
What style did you learn? WTF?

[berryy]

the normal one?
i have no iedea what wtd or any of the other acronyms stand for -_-

[bomb]

No martial art is that useful IRL. Might as well do one you enjoy.

I'm do Muay Thai right now, it's actually pretty useful....trust me
Just wanted some grappling stuff to go with it.

[slothpomba]

Yeah but a lot of this is just practice in the gym and stuff, if you haven't been in an actual real fight where you were seriously in danger in awhile, in a real fight you just might tense up no matter how awesome the techniques you know are.

That said krav maga (israeli army stuff) and wing chung are probably two of the more effective martial arts. I don't even really think they're "martial arts" they don't have a long history or a lot of culture and rigidity to them. I think they like to call them systems and other words like that.

They're so effective though because they use a lot of cheap shots but you gotta do what you gotta do

[rustic_metal]

No martial art is that useful IRL. Might as well do one you enjoy.

I'm do Muay Thai right now, it's actually pretty useful....trust me
Just wanted some grappling stuff to go with it.

Until some cvnt pulls a knife on you, lol. You'll deal more damage to somebody you're trying to get the fark away from than somebody who wants to keep you in one spot to 'fight' you will deal to you, anyway; no such thing as a spar if somebody wants to gut you.

It'd be useful if they're much stronger than you and you needed an edge in a fight, but that would generally require you staying to fight them. If they want to kick your arse, you have no reason to stay and you lose the advantage by doing so. If you want to kick their arse, they have no reason to stay, so they have the advantage.

If you legitimately want to hurt somebody, you either have to take them out straight away or make sure they can't turn the tables with weapons (either ones they already have on them or makeshift ones) or by calling in friends. Going in for a grapple or something is insanely risky when they could reach behind their back and prison yard rush you before you even realise what's going on, leaving you on the ground trying to hold your guts in.

[bomb]

Until some cvnt pulls a knife on you, lol. You'll deal more damage to somebody you're trying to get the fark away from than somebody who wants to keep you in one spot to 'fight' you will deal to you, anyway; no such thing as a spar if somebody wants to gut you.

It'd be useful if they're much stronger than you and you needed an edge in a fight, but that would generally require you staying to fight them. If they want to kick your arse, you have no reason to stay and you lose the advantage by doing so. If you want to kick their arse, they have no reason to stay, so they have the advantage.

If you legitimately want to hurt somebody, you either have to take them out straight away or make sure they can't turn the tables with weapons (either ones they already have on them or makeshift ones) or by calling in friends. Going in for a grapple or something is insanely risky when they could reach behind their back and prison yard rush you before you even realise what's going on, leaving you on the ground trying to hold your guts in.

Doesn't matter what the situation is, martial arts > no martial arts. If they didn't make a difference I doubt armies would bother with teaching their soldiers Krav Maga etc. You'd have a hard time stabbing one of those guys, some of the guys where I go are near impossible to stab with a rubber knife (for training purposes) unless you train in the same discipline.
Clinching someone up and kneeing the hell out of their face doesn't take long anyway. Besides, I don't think a single person would get into a bar fight with an unarmed Bas Rutten even if they had a knife.

[rustic_metal]

Good luck.

[slothpomba]

Of course weapon will always trump no weapon, even just for the fear factor. (Of course one hit with a weapon and you're pretty screwed)

The very first thing we learnt and i think all martial artists should learn is "Don't cause trouble" "Don't go looking for trouble" "Don't beat someone up with what i've showed you" "Its better to never use martial arts at all, if you can get out of fighting you should".

All good things.

Also gotta remember those guys are trained soldiers who have faced real knives theyre used to it, martial arts can be useless sometimes if you take you're average middle class joe who hasn't been in a serious fight in ages and just throw him in.

I wouldn't do it for self defense, a lot of these systems are very old (like karate/judo) and were designed to defend against people who would only use hand to hand combat, the other stuff was added in later.

I'd do a martial art more for fun than self defense really.

[Whatlol]

the normal one?
i have no iedea what wtd or any of the other acronyms stand for -_-

Ignoring the above argument :

I suppose WTF is the normal one, that is the one you see in the olympics. Basically WTF and ITF have different styles and ITF doesnt have full contact sparring (i think).

WTF - world taekwondo federation
ITF - international taekwondo federation

[slothpomba]

It's also political.

ITF has links to north korea while WTF has links to south korea.

I think ITF is more authentic though because the father of modern taekwondo chong hong hi was the head of the ITF school.

Little summary of thathere.

We had sparring and it was non contact but thats maybe because we were juniors, i mean people still wore amour.

Here's a video of competitions, i didn't go to RMIT to do it but the same guy that taught me also teaches the rmit club.

(Getting a little off topic here haha maybe we need like a martial arts thread or something)

[Whatlol]

It's also political.

ITF has links to north korea while WTF has links to south korea.

I think ITF is more authentic though because the father of modern taekwondo chong hong hi was the head of the ITF school.

Little summary of thathere.

We had sparring and it was non contact but thats maybe because we were juniors, i mean people still wore amour.

Here's a video of competitions, i didn't go to RMIT to do it but the same guy that taught me also teaches the rmit club.

(Getting a little off topic here haha maybe we need like a martial arts thread or something)

Well that video was pretty awesome, except some of the punching looks intresting :p.

Thats pretty hardcore because in WTF you have headgaurds and bodygaurds

[slothpomba]

At my old club we used to have to wear head-guards, maybe these guys just didnt have them or something haha or just wanted to be hardcore.