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At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« on: March 20, 2011, 01:57:55 pm »
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http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/psychology/assessreports/2010/psych2_assessrep_10.pdf

Been waiting for this shit for ages >.>

Just curiously apparently there was a dodgy Q last year on some 'learning' Q? Was that q34 where only 19% of the students got it right?

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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 02:24:28 pm »
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still waiting to see the BM one...

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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2011, 04:02:25 pm »
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still waiting to see the BM one...
+1, not that I care that much, just want to see the percentages haha
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 04:06:02 pm »
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Yeah, Q34 = lame as. Still think the correct answer is D. If they wanted to go play outside then obviously it must be bad inside. Reinforcement involves the increase in a behaviour, the teacher wanted to increase their behaviour of saying please or thank you therefore it couldn't possibly be a punishment.

It's a dodgy question definitely. Once you've covered learning go back to this thread and you'll understand what I mean and you'll also be like "WTF...that's bullshit".
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 04:18:09 pm »
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Yeah, Q34 = lame as. Still think the correct answer is D. If they wanted to go play outside then obviously it must be bad inside. Reinforcement involves the increase in a behaviour, the teacher wanted to increase their behaviour of saying please or thank you therefore it couldn't possibly be a punishment.

It's a dodgy question definitely. Once you've covered learning go back to this thread and you'll understand what I mean and you'll also be like "WTF...that's bullshit".
Uh oh, you did not just question the master of Psych Mr Examiner :o
Did you finish your assignment/s?
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 04:20:36 pm »
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I also found it kinda strange that on the last question only 4% got the full 2/2. I'm guessing this was due to the fact that people didn't finish. Also question 5 in short answer should have been marked more harshly, they accepted just "partial schedule". Which to me would be too broad a statement to get the full mark. Especially since the answer was definitely variable INTERVAL not variable ratio and a partial schedule could refer to either of those.. Otherwise most of the other stuff is pretty typical. But gee the difference in percentages across 2010 and 2009 are quite different.

2010
The scores in the short answer section (overall mean 49% correct) were: Memory 53% correct, 48% for Learning and 47% for Research Methods. In the multiple-choice section, the mean score for Memory was 78% correct and the mean score for Learning was 77% correct.

2009
The scores in the Short answer section (overall mean 55%) were ‘Memory’ (59%), ‘Learning’ (54%) and ‘Research Methods’ (54%). In the Multiple-choice section, the mean scores were ‘Memory’ (81%) and ‘Learning’ (83%).

Just shows that in every section the exam was significantly harder, due to the new exam writers hired in 2010. So 2011 people keep that in mind, I guess they wouldn't want to make hard exam 2 years in a row but you never know.
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 04:22:59 pm »
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Yeah, Q34 = lame as. Still think the correct answer is D. If they wanted to go play outside then obviously it must be bad inside. Reinforcement involves the increase in a behaviour, the teacher wanted to increase their behaviour of saying please or thank you therefore it couldn't possibly be a punishment.

It's a dodgy question definitely. Once you've covered learning go back to this thread and you'll understand what I mean and you'll also be like "WTF...that's bullshit".
Uh oh, you did not just question the master of Psych Mr Examiner :o
Did you finish your assignment/s?
Haha oh I don't mind challenging him :P He gets stuff wrong too, I've witnessed it first hand! I know he doesn't set the answers for MC, he just needs to explain them in the assessor's report. I personally reckon he would have selected option D if it were up to him because it definitely goes against the rules of reinforcement vs. punishment.
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 04:25:17 pm »
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Yeah, Q34 = lame as. Still think the correct answer is D. If they wanted to go play outside then obviously it must be bad inside. Reinforcement involves the increase in a behaviour, the teacher wanted to increase their behaviour of saying please or thank you therefore it couldn't possibly be a punishment.

It's a dodgy question definitely. Once you've covered learning go back to this thread and you'll understand what I mean and you'll also be like "WTF...that's bullshit".
Uh oh, you did not just question the master of Psych Mr Examiner :o
Did you finish your assignment/s?
Haha oh I don't mind challenging him :P He gets stuff wrong too, I've witnessed it first hand! I know he doesn't set the answers for MC, he just needs to explain them in the assessor's report. I personally reckon he would have selected option D if it were up to him because it definitely goes against the rules of reinforcement vs. punishment.
Yeah I know, that's what I was thinking..

And you didn't answer my other question - in terms of my psychological know-how, I would say neglecting an answer = procrastination?
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 04:27:07 pm »
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Yeah, Q34 = lame as. Still think the correct answer is D. If they wanted to go play outside then obviously it must be bad inside. Reinforcement involves the increase in a behaviour, the teacher wanted to increase their behaviour of saying please or thank you therefore it couldn't possibly be a punishment.

It's a dodgy question definitely. Once you've covered learning go back to this thread and you'll understand what I mean and you'll also be like "WTF...that's bullshit".
Uh oh, you did not just question the master of Psych Mr Examiner :o
Did you finish your assignment/s?
Haha oh I don't mind challenging him :P He gets stuff wrong too, I've witnessed it first hand! I know he doesn't set the answers for MC, he just needs to explain them in the assessor's report. I personally reckon he would have selected option D if it were up to him because it definitely goes against the rules of reinforcement vs. punishment.
Yeah I know, that's what I was thinking..
I knew you'd understand... Hopefully ATAR will get me in about 4 months time when he actually learns "Learning" in unit 4.
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 04:28:35 pm »
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lol psychological know how aye?

Nar, I finished the assignment on saturday! :) It's in my bag ready to be handed in monday morning.
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 04:53:46 pm »
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I knew you'd understand... Hopefully ATAR will get me in about 4 months time when he actually learns "Learning" in unit 4.
Wha? I don't follow.

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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 04:55:17 pm »
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I knew you'd understand... Hopefully ATAR will get me in about 4 months time when he actually learns "Learning" in unit 4.
Wha? I don't follow.
haha I was being sarcastic. Obviously luken would have no clue about what I mean with this psych stuff. So I said you would... eventually when you cover it in class. Which isn't for a while!
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 04:57:16 pm »
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I knew you'd understand... Hopefully ATAR will get me in about 4 months time when he actually learns "Learning" in unit 4.
Wha? I don't follow.
haha I was being sarcastic. Obviously luken would have no clue about what I mean with this psych stuff. So I said you would... eventually when you cover it in class. Which isn't for a while!
Ah - I follow.

Ah I'll revisit this thread in two terms time I guess >.>

Oh and I love this:

Also question 5 in short answer should have been marked more harshly

You're just cruel :P
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Re: At 'kin last [ 2010 U4 Assessor's Report ] Psych
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 08:05:27 pm »
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%$#@#$@%#$@!!!!!!!!!!!

The VCAA will pay for this!

That 19% didn't study for the exam >:(

And they reasoned that there was "no evidence" to suggest that the classroom was aversive. Clearly these people were born into adulthood!

What about when rats gets electrocuted, there's no evidence saying that's aversive, what if it's a masochist rat and it likes that stuff!?!
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