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Integration help pleaseee
« on: May 28, 2011, 07:58:40 pm »
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hey guys, help me out with this one, integrate: 2+(tanx)^2 with respect to x.

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 08:11:51 pm »
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Evaluating ,

Remember

So we need to evaluate

So the whole integral is

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 08:27:29 pm »
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oh shit, i got inte of (secx)^2 = tanx, thanks mate

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 08:34:24 pm »
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any idea anyone?
integrate (2x^5-8x^3+6x)/(x^6-6x^4+12x^2-8) dx

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 08:41:34 pm »
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Expand into partial fractions (the denominator is factorisable) and antidiff it term by term.
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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 08:44:46 pm »
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please show how

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 09:06:16 pm »
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(2x^5-8x^3+6x)/(x^6-6x^4+12x^2-8) = 2x(x-1)(x+1)(x^2 - 3)/(x^2 - 2)^3 = Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3
Ax(x^2 - 2)^2 + Bx = 2x^5-8x^3+6x
Ax(x^4 - 4x^2 + 4) + Bx = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
Ax^5 - 4Ax^3 + (4A + B)x = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
A = 2, 4A + B = 6, so B = -2.
so the integral becomes
int 2x/(x^2 - 2) dx - int 2x/(x^2 - 2)^3 dx
for the first integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u du = ln|u| + C = ln|x^2 - 2| + C
for the second integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u^3 du = u^(-2)/(-2) + C = -1/2(x^2 - 2) + C
so combining them together we get the answer:
= ln|x^2 - 2| + 1/2(x^2 - 2) + C
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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 09:22:57 pm »
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how do you know what are the partial fractions?

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 01:43:56 am »
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sorry, just need help on this last one, i find it so difficult to figure out. Integrate e^2x / sqrt(e^x  +  1).

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 02:10:40 am »
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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2011, 02:50:27 pm »
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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2011, 04:33:37 pm »
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(2x^5-8x^3+6x)/(x^6-6x^4+12x^2-8) = 2x(x-1)(x+1)(x^2 - 3)/(x^2 - 2)^3 = Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3
Ax(x^2 - 2)^2 + Bx = 2x^5-8x^3+6x
Ax(x^4 - 4x^2 + 4) + Bx = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
Ax^5 - 4Ax^3 + (4A + B)x = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
A = 2, 4A + B = 6, so B = -2.
so the integral becomes
int 2x/(x^2 - 2) dx - int 2x/(x^2 - 2)^3 dx
for the first integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u du = ln|u| + C = ln|x^2 - 2| + C
for the second integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u^3 du = u^(-2)/(-2) + C = -1/2(x^2 - 2) + C
so combining them together we get the answer:
= ln|x^2 - 2| + 1/2(x^2 - 2) + C

Can you/anyone explain the partial fractions part please.

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2011, 09:28:20 pm »
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(2x^5-8x^3+6x)/(x^6-6x^4+12x^2-8) = 2x(x-1)(x+1)(x^2 - 3)/(x^2 - 2)^3 = Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3
Ax(x^2 - 2)^2 + Bx = 2x^5-8x^3+6x
Ax(x^4 - 4x^2 + 4) + Bx = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
Ax^5 - 4Ax^3 + (4A + B)x = 2x^5 - 8x^3 + 6x
A = 2, 4A + B = 6, so B = -2.
so the integral becomes
int 2x/(x^2 - 2) dx - int 2x/(x^2 - 2)^3 dx
for the first integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u du = ln|u| + C = ln|x^2 - 2| + C
for the second integral,
let u = x^2 - 2, du = 2x dx
so we have int 1/u^3 du = u^(-2)/(-2) + C = -1/2(x^2 - 2) + C
so combining them together we get the answer:
= ln|x^2 - 2| + 1/2(x^2 - 2) + C

Can you/anyone explain the partial fractions part please.

factorise both top and bottom, then equate it equal to "Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3" (notice factors of the denominator on the whole fraction on left side are now factors of our two fractions on right).

from there make the "Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3" bit one single fraction, and from there you can solve the numerators of both equal to each other to find values of A and B, to therefore integrate the two partial fractions

(probably not the best worded explanation, but tired + bored after writing english oral for sac so leave me alone :) )

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Re: Integration help pleaseee
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2011, 09:33:36 pm »
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How did you arrive at the partial fractions Ax/(x^2 - 2) + Bx/(x^2 - 2)^3? This is what I did not understand.