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Simone Weil The Need for Roots
Dr.Lecter:
If you understand Nietzsche, you should have no problem with Weil - she is more straightforward than Nietzsche.
Menang:
Haven't started Weil - you're all so fast!
Our Nietzsche SAC is on Tuesday (next week) so a whole week to go. :)
Ghost!:
--- Quote from: Dr.Lecter on May 22, 2011, 09:49:29 pm ---If you understand Nietzsche, you should have no problem with Weil - she is more straightforward than Nietzsche.
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Certainly agree with this. Nietzsche is arguably the most complex philosopher on the course, if you can wrap your head around his concepts you should be okay.
--- Quote from: Menang on May 23, 2011, 03:02:46 pm ---Haven't started Weil - you're all so fast!
Our Nietzsche SAC is on Tuesday (next week) so a whole week to go. :)
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Good luck Menang! We start Weil on Wednesday, it's going to be a relief to have a break from Nietzsche. Feels like we've been talking about the Master/Slave morality for months now, most of my class struggled on the SAC today. Probably a good thing really, means Rank 1 will be that much easier for me to ascertain.
Speaking of the Master/Slave morality, what does everyone think of it? Lets get deep here people!
Menang:
Hmmm.
I think it's a little... narrow.
The world doesn't have to be divided into the dichotomy of slaves and masters. What if I'm a master in some situations and a slave in others? There should be some middle ground, and Nietzsche doesn't really provide for that.
I think this concept is really only an observation - there's nothing prescriptive, unlike Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics (which, incidentally, is all about middle grounds). It celebrates the good in nobles and condemns the bad in slaves, but ultimately doesn't really tell you how to live a good life. What if I'm a slave? Not in my attitude towards life, but in the fact that I'm a weak person. Just because a person is born mentally or physically weaker doesn't mean s/he doesn't deserve equality. After all, I think Nietzsche does state somewhere that not everyone can be an ubermensch. This makes it really hard (or impossible) for the majority (the 'weak') to have a truly good life.
mel_77777:
--- Quote from: Menang on May 23, 2011, 09:05:30 pm ---Hmmm.
I think it's a little... narrow.
The world doesn't have to be divided into the dichotomy of slaves and masters. What if I'm a master in some situations and a slave in others? There should be some middle ground, and Nietzsche doesn't really provide for that.
I think this concept is really only an observation - there's nothing prescriptive, unlike Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics (which, incidentally, is all about middle grounds). It celebrates the good in nobles and condemns the bad in slaves, but ultimately doesn't really tell you how to live a good life. What if I'm a slave? Not in my attitude towards life, but in the fact that I'm a weak person. Just because a person is born mentally or physically weaker doesn't mean s/he doesn't deserve equality. After all, I think Nietzsche does state somewhere that not everyone can be an ubermensch. This makes it really hard (or impossible) for the majority (the 'weak') to have a truly good life.
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I think you are right in saying that in some situations we may be a master and in others the slave, but from my understanding Nietzsche does state that we must accept our position in life. Just like lambs by nature do not kill, and how birds of prey by nature kill, it is just how things are and we must accept it, no one is at fault. What i love about Nietzsche's philosophy is (again from my understanding) is that his philosophy conveys not how to get a good life, but to use the situation we are in and to look at it differently. His work is all about perception to me, the way we percieve things is what enables us to achieve a good life.
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