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UMAT
BA22:
hey guys, i sat the umat this year too, and it can suck, definetly
But aspiring for medicine is a path that ebbs and flows with dissapointment, elation and motivation. I did terribly on the UMAT, 161 (210%) with an overall score of 54, and i thought i was gone, and my year (i re-entered year 12 specifically for med) was wasted
I'm a rural student, so i'm lucky, which we all need sometimes .to be lucky that is. I've got interstate interviews in jan at the moment (UNCLE & UNSW), so it's a good reminder that victoria is a difficult state to get into medicine. It will be much harder next year due to melbourne cutting undergrad med to become more internationally appealing . .but that's another topic of discussion all together.
Just remember to exhaust all options with applications, i know it's very limited and exceptionally competitive as an undergrad, but any advantage you can find will help. Just because you bombed out on the umat, does not mean yo can't be a doctor a surgeon, it means you have to wait. And wait you should, nobody can tell you can't be, and certianly not ACER and their stupid fuckin test.
And it is stupid, the ranking may well be relative, but as some prospective med students will tell you, some of their friends did very well. Some of these freinds happen to be complete morons. Personally i completed an IQ test two months before the UMAT, very similar questions, and got 165. On another one recently, 138. It's all relative to the questions, and the cohort though . .
But all of that fades away when you get an interview offer, regardless of how shithouse your umat is, you're still in the game, and that's all you need to be.
Adelaide re-invites some previously rejected applicants who got over 99.00 for interview
Melbourne weights section one of the umat
A QLD uni, not sure which, reckons the umat is a croc of shit and don't use it
Monash weights the umat less than interview
Newcastle is almost 100% interview for admission, the umat can be a subranking, and the ENTER is a cut off of 93.8
UNSW has probably the lowest umat cutoffs of any uni, if you predict a high score for yourself, which you should!! the UAI predictor can get you an interview with a umat score like me in general applicant schemes
Rural kids should laugh at the umat, seriously, i totally ballsed up the umat and UNCLE and UNSW patted me on the back and said "there, there simpleton" come anyway. Being rural is awesome. I hear from monash this week whether or not they're gonna pat me on the back and join my umat pity train
So don't worry, it can work out for you if you search every nook and cranny for some conceivable advantage. Be prepared to ring the faculty, and move interstate, it could pay off.
Collin Li:
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--- Quote from: "coblin" ---Yeah, well: if universities think that's how they'll get their best applicants, that's what they should do. However, if universities believe there is untapped potential in people who did not do well in the UMAT, but have shown great VCE discipline, then it is also in their best interests to make sure these people are offered a spot too. It's all about allocation of resources, the university definitely wants to give their places to the smartest students, and if someone really believes there is great potential in these people who have not passed the UMAT, they could open a medical school that enrols these people (or invest in a university to open spots for them, and reap the rewards).
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I like that idea!
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Hehe, I was promoting the free-market solution, as opposed to what some people would instantly snap to: "the government should intervene and tell universities how to best select their students!"
bonghead:
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Rural kids should laugh at the umat, seriously, i totally ballsed up the umat and UNCLE and UNSW patted me on the back and said "there, there simpleton" come anyway. Being rural is awesome. I hear from monash this week whether or not they're gonna pat me on the back and join my umat pity train
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I seriously hope your right. My only hope to get into monash is to play the pity card due to my shitty umat score. They are really going to have to believe that im some poor, blind, insulated guy who has no idea about the goings on around him haha. I feel guilty winging about my poor situation because personally i dont feel as if ive been disadvantaged at all, especially in regard to the umat. Seeing as its a supposed IQ test your performance should depend on your own intellect not your environment or schooling. Do you think monash will fall for the whole disadvantaged rural thing? They could react differently to the other uni's?
ninwa:
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Monash weights the umat less than interview
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Really??? How do you know??
Then there's hope for me after all. I JUST got an interview. Literally. The cut-off was 59 raw and I got 59 raw :oops:
So if I do well on the interview it should make up for it? Yay :P
BA22:
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Monash weights the umat less than interview
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Really??? How do you know??
Then there's hope for me after all. I JUST got an interview. Literally. The cut-off was 59 raw and I got 59 raw :oops:
So if I do well on the interview it should make up for it? Yay :P
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Yeh monash favour a good interview and solid ENTER (med solid, so at least 98 ) over UMAT
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