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How much will full fee med at melb cost?
doboman:
--- Quote from: Brendan on December 17, 2008, 09:19:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: doboman on December 17, 2008, 09:14:46 pm ---is it fair that a person with a 99.XX misses out on medicine, because he/she are unable to pay of the MASSIVE fee for medicine?
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Is it fair that a person misses out on a ferrari because they are unable to pay 200k+?
--- Quote from: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 09:17:45 pm ---We offer people a better chance to med than any other country in the world i would argue
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I am not so sure about that given the very high ENTER scores required due to restriction on the number of medical places that universities can offer due to government quotas.
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Brenden, me and you both know- although you'll fight that it is concerning the same aspect, that these two situations are completely different. Think of it this way, how would you feel, if you got a 99.25- but because you couldnt afford to pay your way through UNI, you cant get into your life long dream of MED. While on the other hand, a person who achieves a 94.25 (although still a good score) gets in, just because his dad owns a big company and can pay off his debt easily.
But ofcourse, i know that you wont acknowledge it, so no use trying with you.
BA22:
--- Quote from: doboman on December 17, 2008, 09:20:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 09:17:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: doboman on December 17, 2008, 09:14:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: roly182 on December 17, 2008, 08:59:27 pm ---Oh ohk thanks guys. So does anybody know anyone doing full-fee med? I dont come from a wealthy family so i couldnt pay for it like that, and part time job though uni i am certain would not be enough! So is this really an option for me?
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Probably not. Congrats on your score, but no, i dont think it's wise to be $250 000 in debt by the time you finish UNI.
This is what's wrong with the stupid Australian higher education system. The wealthy are allowed to enter Medical schools such as BOND UNI- with a significantly lower ENTER- just because they're 'rich'. Does being rich make you anymore competent at being a doctor/dentist? Further, is it fair that a person with a 99.XX misses out on medicine, because he/she are unable to pay of the MASSIVE fee for medicine?
I guess it's expected- given that Education is like the second biggest revenue maker in Australia.
/rant.
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It costs alot to run a medical course and in the US, a USD$250,000 debt to a non-government third-party is pretty much standard
We offer people a better chance to med than any other country in the world i would argue
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Question is still there to. Why are rich people, who can afford full-fee, allowed to get into med with a lower ENTER, while those who get 99.XX cant?
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Because universities are ultimately businesses, thay have bills and staff to pay, research money to lobby for, it's not like full fee kids get in with scores like 7x.xx or anything like that, you'll find the competition is so strong there are some kids with scores in the top 1% of the state who still only get offered full fee spots in graduate med courses. Besides there are so many sets of criteria, you can't simple use ENTER to decide if an applicant is better than another
vcestar:
--- Quote from: roly182 on December 17, 2008, 08:59:27 pm ---Oh ohk thanks guys. So does anybody know anyone doing full-fee med? I dont come from a wealthy family so i couldnt pay for it like that, and part time job though uni i am certain would not be enough! So is this really an option for me?
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Try out for CSP med at the end of your biomedicine this means doing the GAMSAT and weathering the competition. You can use the "full fee" as a safety net incase u dont do well in that. Unfortunately us non 99.XXers dont have a safety net.
I dunno this is just my guess...
doboman:
--- Quote from: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 09:26:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: doboman on December 17, 2008, 09:20:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: BA22 on December 17, 2008, 09:17:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: doboman on December 17, 2008, 09:14:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: roly182 on December 17, 2008, 08:59:27 pm ---Oh ohk thanks guys. So does anybody know anyone doing full-fee med? I dont come from a wealthy family so i couldnt pay for it like that, and part time job though uni i am certain would not be enough! So is this really an option for me?
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Probably not. Congrats on your score, but no, i dont think it's wise to be $250 000 in debt by the time you finish UNI.
This is what's wrong with the stupid Australian higher education system. The wealthy are allowed to enter Medical schools such as BOND UNI- with a significantly lower ENTER- just because they're 'rich'. Does being rich make you anymore competent at being a doctor/dentist? Further, is it fair that a person with a 99.XX misses out on medicine, because he/she are unable to pay of the MASSIVE fee for medicine?
I guess it's expected- given that Education is like the second biggest revenue maker in Australia.
/rant.
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It costs alot to run a medical course and in the US, a USD$250,000 debt to a non-government third-party is pretty much standard
We offer people a better chance to med than any other country in the world i would argue
--- End quote ---
Question is still there to. Why are rich people, who can afford full-fee, allowed to get into med with a lower ENTER, while those who get 99.XX cant?
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Because universities are ultimately businesses, thay have bills and staff to pay, research money to lobby for, it's not like full fee kids get in with scores like 7x.xx or anything like that, you'll find the competition is so strong there are some kids with scores in the top 1% of the state who still only get offered full fee spots in graduate med courses. Besides there are so many sets of criteria, you can't simple use ENTER to decide if an applicant is better than another
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So they use money instead. very nice.
BA22:
Also, there is a more insidious aspect of rich people in med courses involving people who take CSP bonded spots, intending to "buy out" the spot so they don't have to fulfill their post-graduate working obligations
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