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Wizard

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NMR Question
« on: January 02, 2009, 02:47:19 pm »
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I was reading about NMR, and I came across the terms "upfield" and "downfield". What do these terms mean, and do we need to know what they mean and how to use them for VCE Chem?

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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2009, 03:06:53 pm »
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Probably referred to whether the proton spin is aligned with the external magnetic field or whether it is aligned against the external magnetic field.
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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 04:18:33 pm »
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You probably do not need to know this, it's good to know what happens but I doubt they will test you on this.  Most questions will revolve around interpreting results.
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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 02:18:41 pm »
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What does the "integration trace" mean?  ???

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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 07:26:22 pm »
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What is spin-spin coupling, and how does it work?

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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 08:43:31 pm »
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For both of the last two questions, I'll just say you don't need to know them, and the explanations for especially the latter are quite tedious. For the spin-spin coupling, all you need to know is the 'n+1 rule'. They'd be much easier to explain in person since I'm not sure exactly sure at which stage I'd lose you if I just gave a few paragraphs of lecturing here so yeh. I might write up a thorough NMR principles guide if I get the time, but considering that I haven't touched my context one in like a month, I have doubts at that =P
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Re: NMR Question
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 09:54:43 pm »
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I have uploaded some NMR notes before, they are in there somewhere. Integration trace is the area under the peak, i.e. number of C/H under a peak. Spin-spin coupling causes the splits according to the n+1 rule. That's all you need to know.
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